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According to the Telegraph, a leaked confidential Trump peace plan delivered to President Zelenskyy has caused panic in Kyiv.

The proposal would grant the U.S. half of revenues from Ukraine’s resource extraction and licensing, effectively amounting to economic colonization.

The Telegraph noted, "Trump’s demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles Treaty, later whittled down at the London Conference in 1921, and by the Dawes Plan in 1924."

Simultaneously, the plan would absolve Russia for its invasion that has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Leaving Nato drastically increases the chances he attacks Canada and attacking Canada will cause a civil war. 100%

[–] LeFantome 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Trump takes Canada, he better occupy it and not integrate it politically.

Adding 40 million people to the US population without representation seems unlikely. With representation, that many people with Canadian opinions will mean no more Republican House or President for generations. Are the 10 provinces getting senate seats? 2 each? Never another red senate if that happens. Electoral College votes?

Honestly, he is going to add the second largest country in the world as a single state? Good luck.

Will 51st state Canadians be able to move to other parts of the US? Because just the snowbirds already there would turn Florida, Texas, Arizona, and Nevada blue overnight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the 51st state thing is tabloid level headline nonsense

there is no way it would happen peacefully. , it would only happen after a military invasion or a coup backed by the US. Abandon any idea of Canada becoming a state, it would be occupied territory without legal representation and likely very few if any rights. and it would remain that way for at least a generation or two before any small "new states" were carved out, and collaborators would be allowed to rule over small regions for the interest of keeping the peace. after a healthy amount of colonization of American loyalists, murder of Canadians and imprisonment of dissidents. but all in all. make no mistake, it would be a shooting war, and it would certainly cause civil war in america too, as this is a red line.

you need only look to Eastern Ukraine to see how this sort of thing plays out.

Armed coercion, military invasion, fake referendums, importing migrants to replace the dead and evicted with "colonists'. suppression , imprisonment and murder of locals who dont swear fealty. etc.