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'Panic' in Ukraine as leaked confidential Trump peace plan astounds: report (www.rawstory.com)

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According to the Telegraph, a leaked confidential Trump peace plan delivered to President Zelenskyy has caused panic in Kyiv.

The proposal would grant the U.S. half of revenues from Ukraine’s resource extraction and licensing, effectively amounting to economic colonization.

The Telegraph noted, "Trump’s demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles Treaty, later whittled down at the London Conference in 1921, and by the Dawes Plan in 1924."

Simultaneously, the plan would absolve Russia for its invasion that has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fellow Floridian keeping eyes on an out, but neither my wife nor I are quite "skilled" enough to go be able to get jobs elsewhere. She may be able to but she works in the arts so it likely wouldn't pay much. I could work anywhere being in IT but I'm not specialized enough to get anything they wouldn't just hire locally for.

Hang in there. Ive always said Florida is the best state if it wasn't for the Floridians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Hang in there and keep an eye on the west coast. If California votes in favor of secession, sell your house or get a loan for it as collateral, buy a motorhome with the money and go to northern California (preferrably somewhere near San Francisco). It's super expensive (or at least it is at the time of writing, this being the place Silicon Valley is located) but, provided that California has already confirmed secession, you'll be as far as you can get from "his" influence without leaving the Continental US.

Other options if you have no other citizenship are Hawaii, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Alaska and the Seattle area. If you can cross a border, head for Kelowna in British Columbia. I do not recommend trying to get through Texas to Mexico, there are a lot of culturally-engrained prejudices that you're certainly familiar with that will have them questioning why a family would flee Florida "unless they're trying to escape" and pre-emptively detain anyone traveling in a motorhome with their entire family. If possible, drive as far north as you can before turning west.

Use OsmAnd (an android GPS app that uses OpenStreetMap instead of Google Maps) on a cheap phone for your navigation, toss it and your normal phone if you have a close call. If you have ANY access to leave the country for one of similar safety for ANY reason, research their current state using wikipedia. Buy your tickets for an airline now and then prepare legal resources to apply for refugee status in the country you end up in (might take several long-distance calls). Worst-case scenario, you take your chances of being deported by creating a change.org petition and hope that the recipient country understands you're not leaving the wealthiest country on earth if shit hasn't hit the fan (they probably will be willing to listen). All of this is legal but will also keep you out of trouble if legality is not a barrier to those currently trying to take complete power in the US. Please note, I'm not an American or a lawyer, I just have a surprising amount of life experience. Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I appreciate you taking the time! This is some great information and has helped me explore some other options. Im not holding out for any kind of secession though. My countrymen, even the same ones in California, are too lethargic for that. I hope I'm wrong and we will find something to finally unite behind, but for now the discontent is scattered and general which makes individual action harder and less effective.