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[–] [email protected] 113 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Namanyay, I’m sorry to say, sounds like a relative newbie when it comes to software development. The refrain “junior software developers can’t actually code” has been around as long as software development.

I remember when Stack Exchange first popped up, senior developers complained “junior developers don’t actually LEARN anything anymore; they just copy code off of Stack Exchange without understanding what it does!”

And before SE? We were doing the exact same thing in the comp.* newsgroups. And before that? When you started developing something, a senior dev dropped a bunch of books on your desk and said “when you’ve finished reading those, let’s talk.”

The truth is, ever since libraries have been a thing, the majority of developers have just used the libraries without really understanding what goes on inside them. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing — the entire point of abstraction is so that developers can focus on the stuff they need to get done while ignoring the already solved problems.

The issues arise when you place code monkeys in software architecture or senior development positions, and they’ve never had the curiosity to read through the header files for those libraries they use, but instead just let Claude code complete their way to functionality. Because then most style guides with teeth go out the window, as there’s no intention behind the choices made.

And this results in something that really irks (and always has) senior software developers: instead of writing really clean, performant and novel code, those senior devs have to spend all their time doing code reviews and editing and refactoring codebases that nobody else understands.

Same as it ever was.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

From one senior dev to another, who remembers when O'Reily books were the gold standard, this, exactly this. Junior devs are junior because they don't know how to code. The important bit is that they learn and become intermediate devs. If in another decade we're sitting here complaining about intermediate and senior devs that don't know how to program, then we'll have a problem.

[–] vrek 3 points 4 days ago

I say you're wrong. If in dacade we are stilling complaining about the same dev, then we have failed to teach. In a decade that junior dev should be a senior and probably better than me. If they are still junior either they don't have the ability to progress or I failed them. Most likely I failed them.....m

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