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In three weeks, Donald Trump has imploded whatever positive image the United States might have had internationally.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I feel bad for the innocent Americans who are gonna suffer... people who honestly didn't ask for or want any of this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We may not have wanted any of this, but none of us are innocent. We all play our parts whether that's the sociopathic capitalist or the empathetic commoner, with the consequences of our actions/inaction causing harm and suffering to the world. The very devices we're having this discussion on were created with suffering.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

We've collectively destroyed this entire planet - that was intended to sustain us all - so none of us are innocent, except the children who've no idea yet what right and wrong even mean. As for the rest of us, there are very real degrees of guilt and also sincere ignorance, and also repentance... if not, we would all deserve to just lay down and let evil roll over us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean the conservatives definitely asked for this, as did the democrats who didn’t vote, and the majority of Americans who don’t vote at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So you don't believe there are any Americans who don't deserve to suffer for what's happening?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There is a minority who didn’t directly contribute to it, yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

It was something like 48.5% of voters, maybe over 49% depending how you count third party voters

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Ok, so we at least partially agree.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, everyone who voted for Hillary/Biden in primaries wanted this.

They would rather have Trump than Bernie, so that's what they got.