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[–] logging_strict -3 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

The OP author is very familiar with uv, having written multiple articles on it. Pushes it onto his students. So i get it, the article is focused on uv and he is invested in uv. This assessment is a tiny bit unfair, but enough, only, to justify reading the article with a tiny grain of salt.

For package management, i'm happy with pyenv. So there i have a bias.

The biggest praise i have is, it follows the UNIX philosophy, do one thing and do it well. uv does multiple things, the issue comes down to resources required to maintain a super complex thing. Especially in a completely different coding language! I DONT GIVE TWO SHIATS IF ITS FASTER, I care about maintainability after the original geniuses disappear and they will.

dependency management

Any blog post which doesn't mention competitors, tiny grain of salt --> giant grain of salt.

If not mentioned, have to assume either don't know about them or haven't bothered to try them.

What are the actual competitors to uv (specifically for dependency management)?

The only package mentioned is: poetry

poetry also violates the UNIX philosophy. It combines build backend with dependency management. I want them separate.

Open up that super powerful doom pr0n machine, AI, and get it to find the other (dependency management packages). Mention them in the blog post.

[–] FizzyOrange 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The biggest praise i have is, it follows the UNIX philosophy, do one thing and do it well.

That isn't a pro on its own, and it's also a very wooly rule. Uv does one thing and it does it well - Python project management.

the issue comes down to resources required to maintain a super complex thing

They seem to be managing fine. I guess having a company back it is enough. But that is also probably my biggest worry about it - what if Astral goes away (which given their apparent lack of business model I suspect they eventually will)? Hopefully uv is popular enough by that point it won't die.

I DONT GIVE TWO SHIATS IF ITS FASTER

It's literally 10x faster. I'm not sure what kind of person wouldn't care about that.

[–] logging_strict -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s literally 10x faster

reminds me of the ol' joke

young bull: lets run down the hill and get us a heffer

old bull: lets walk down and do 'em all

wtf is your rush?

It literally doesn't matter how long it takes. Especially when Astral has moved on.

[–] FizzyOrange 2 points 2 weeks ago

It literally doesn’t matter how long it takes.

Found the Python dev...

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