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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

We do. It's the 2nd amendment. Literally what it was written for, the forceful reclamation of democratic freedom should it be taken by a tyrannical leadership. Too bad everyone that actually gives a damn about that option is on red team, and blue team thinks the 2nd amendment is for killing children and nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, to be fair, the red team thinks it's pretty much only for killing children too...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

It's ok once they're born, god only loves fetuses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

This is exactly why I've always maintained that the 2nd amendment against tyranny is complete and utter horseshit. There will never, ever, be a case in which civilians can take up arms against the US government and have any remote shot of doing anything. Any tyrannical government will get to where they are with such significant support they will be so ridiculously protected you'd have to take on the entire military and legal branches of the USA.

In 1814 when everyone had a flintlock pistol? Sure. Now? Have fun getting remote drone striked before you even step foot into Washington D.C.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The Taliban won and they don't have advanced technology.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Yeah, let's just organize 100,000+ people right under the nose of the US government, on the damn homefront, to overthrow a tyrannical government, all the while being spied on via every backdoor on Earth by the NSA. Good luck and have fun having your house burned down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Let's pretend any of that actually matters and the US government doesn't have a history of losing to locals, and ask the following: what happens if you willingly disarm yourself? Criminals will still have guns, your police will still shoot "less-lethal" rounds into the heads of protesters, and you will still be oppressed.

What do you get out of this? A fraction of the illusion of safety? And all it cost you was the last defense against oppression anyone has.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago)

I really don't care to get into overarching discussion of the 2nd amendment, it's been done to death. It's also not what this conversation was about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Then just move. I know the current administration is happy you are spreading propaganda that states to roll over since there's nothing to do. You are the maga hero.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 59 minutes ago

Look, I'm not saying to just roll over, but wtf are we supposed to do. The second amendment is there, I don't see anyone utilizing it, and I don't think they ever will.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

When CW II kicks off some people will be caught, some people will be thrown in prison, and some people will be killed.

Remember it's "home of the brave", not "home of the cowards".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Remember it’s “home of the brave”, not “home of the cowards”.

I have yet to be proven otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Ah, okay, my bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah idk man, once they start putting IEDs on I-90 things are gonna change real quick.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I believe in the 2nd Amendment, but certainly NOT to overthrow the government for light and transient causes. I don’t take Trump lightly, but he hasn’t turned into a total despot yet. There is grave risk, but there’s also a chance his abuses will lead to reforms that limit Executive branch powers. I think many non-Republicans like our guns as much as Republicans, but we don’t bluster about them and unlike Republicans we don’t rebel because our candidate lost an election.

[–] DrDeadCrash 7 points 2 hours ago

From a VA employee:

This is destroying the Agency. People come to work terrified every day. I don’t know a single competent and qualified person who isn’t actively looking for work elsewhere and the only people who will be left to serve our Veterans are those with no other choices. The amount of sheer experience, knowledge, and brainpower being lost is irreplaceable, and the trust is already broken. We’ll never get it back. I am heartbroken that so many Republicans deeply, deeply hate us for doing our best every single day to serve Veterans. I will never forgive them for this.

https://open.substack.com/pub/progressreport/p/revenge-of-the-whiny-pampered-baby?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2lkdbh

I don't know what you think despotism looks like, but this sure as hell isn't democracy nor is it a republic. This has nothing to do with losing an election, this has to do with some people's fantasy that Trump will ever give up power. I guess we need to wait until evidence surfaces, and then only iron clad evidence that the worst is happening will possibly motivate them, maybe.

I disagree with your overall assessment that we are experiencing "light" or "transient" causes for general revolt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

That moment was Jan 6th. There was no heavy and hard change in Hitler's Germany from the Beer Hall Putsch all the way to Stalingrad and the gas chambers. It's all boiling the frog from here to there. Every change will seem like a light and transient one. By the time you feel you should go all in on the 2A, you will be mostly alone. That is by design.

In fact, we are already in the Gleichschaltung and the appeasement phase.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

light and transient causes

dude... they're making concentration camps. This isn't just a "candidate"