ID: ally @missmayn posted: "the democrats were more energized and organized against campus protests than the current authoritarian takeover."
this post was submitted on 06 Feb 2025
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Ah yes. Fascists taking over the county? Time to blame their opposition. Help their opposition? Nah, I'd rather blame them.
Lol, what opposition?
You and other poor people dummy
It's not enough, but I've seen more of it from the DNC than I have you.
the bar is in hell.
Y'know, you could just admit that you're not paying attention. That's allowed.
Paying attention to what? How the democrats stack up against the political actions of posters?
Nobody was blaming anyone in the post, just making an observation.
But yes the first step in growth is realizing your mistakes and they refuse to do that. Fascism depends entirely on lazy, uninvolved and conflict averse people. Nowhere in the world has fascism ever come to power without the support of "centrists". The US democratic party is a party of centrists with no goals and no interest in actually doing anything. They have created the perfect breeding ground for a fascist takeover.
I have posted it before and i will post it again, the democratic party is not free of blame. They cant just lean back and blame everything on Trump or Musk or voters.
The Democrats will learn the wrong lesson from this: "We need to convince more Republicans to vote for us!"
They were taught the wrong lesson. The left refuses to vote for them because they don't perfectly represent them; moderates turn out and can be swung from time to time. What tangible evidence do they have that moving left will gain them more votes than it will cost them?
Actual data from Bernie Sanders' campaign showing that he was vastly more popular overall (and especially in red states) than the centrists.
And Bernie endorsed Harris, and she lost.
And? Do you think an endorsement automatically means everyone who would have voted for Bernie would vote for Harris? Like I said, Bernie's popularity over other Democratic candidates was most pronounced in red states. Those votes didn't transfer to Harris, they transfered to Trump, or to no one at all.
Like I said, the wrong lesson was taught.
Why do you insist on absolving the Democrats of responsibility for their own decisions? It's on them to learn the right lessons, and they didn't. It is difficult to get someone to understand something when their salary depends on them not understanding it. Left-populism is the clear solution to their problems but it scares them because it is in direct opposition to their financial interests.
I'm not directly affected by American politics. But it is interesting to see how it behaves. The Democrats seem to have an identity crisis, they appear to have expected to win because "who would vote for the orange guy?" mentality, but they showed their lack of vision by allowing Biden to run first then switching to Kamala when it didn't work out. In the meantime Trump was being a salesman/conman with bold proposals that would benefit the people, even if they weren't true (as it usual with politics).
The Democrats needed, from the start, a somewhat young, centrist and fierce candidate, that could chew Trump during debates, thus turning Republican voters, but the Democrat leadership is sadly lacking and not getting on with the times. I see news about the GOP and Turning point USA quite often, never good but very visible while from the Democrat side there is just silence, just waiting the Republicans to lose.
Curious how that graphic doesn't say Left and Right on the horizontal scale but rather Liberal and Conservative, whilst the title describes it as showing that the Democrats have moved to the Left which is quite a different thing.
It's almost as if that's a piece of propaganda meant to deceive readers...
That's just not true. The democratic party is a coalition group with a great variety of goals that don't form a coherent ideal. You have AOC who's a either a social democrat saying she's a democratic socialist or a democratic socialist who's hiding her true ideals behind policies that advance her goals but are far easier to sell than what she really wants. Then you have obvious fascists who are clearly there only to enable the wealthy. Aside from them you have the people who believe that the democratic process is sacrosanct and above defiance even in the face of someone obviously attempting to subvert it.
Aside from that, on average the Democrats prefer action against climate change, that the rights of minorities be protected, and are less anti-worker than the GOP. These are real differences that matter. There's no such thing as "centrism" and pretending otherwise is an amazing way to excuse not supporting the largest institution that will lock your worst enemies out of power, even if they don't do anything.
Furthermore, even if the DNC literally never got anything done (which, to be clear, they have done good things that support workers like favorable rules for Unions)that would be great for us, because it'd mean their feckless ineffectual leadership would give us plenty of room to build parallel institutions, educate, and bring others around to our ways of thinking. When the GOP is in charge that becomes harder and it's more dangerous for everyone involved.
Now do Worker Rights, Unions and Economic Equality instead of Liberalism.
The democrats still win but once again, lots of strike breaking and missed opportunities to enact drastic improvements.
And I bet that during all that time and unlike on Liberalism, when it comes to Economic Equality and Work vs Capital they kept moving to the Right almost as fast as the Republicans.
Illustrating the theory that the Democrats have not moved to the Right with a graphic about how they moved on Liberalism is like claiming improving harvests of oranges by showing the numbers for apples.
Those things only are allowed because without them, a worker revolt would have obliterated those favoring under regulated Capitalistism.
"Where's the both sides people after an election" lookin' ass.