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Trump is nullifying federal employee union contracts negotiated in Biden’s final days.

Affected contracts include one with the Education Department ratified just before his inauguration. Trump cited a 2010 Supreme Court decision to justify his stance but did not provide a clear legal basis.

Federal employee unions, representing 800,000 workers, vowed legal action, calling Trump’s move unlawful intimidation.

This continues Trump’s prior efforts to weaken job protections, with additional plans to reclassify and lay off civil servants.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's also pretty damn close to what Trump genuinely wants - for everyone currently doing the work to quit. That way he can install lackeys across the board.

Strikes normally work because the other side wants something - usually the business owner wants labor to create a product. That isn't the case here.

I'm not saying it's pointless, but the classic strategies will need to be rethought.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

unions around the country need to join in sympathy strikes

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Sympathy strikes are illegal in the US. Not saying wildcat strikes wouldn’t be justified, but there is a deliberate policy to undermine this type of broader solidarity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

and why the fuck should we care about legality, in what way is legality equivilent to morality. If we let the law justify what is moral, then any time something works for labor, they can just make it illegal and therefor immoral

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Who cares if they are illegal, they want us to be afraid. I'd say do the stikes, what they gonna do arrest everyone in the country?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, people need to realize unions and labor movements are about power, not a codified system of rules. "Legal" strikes are a fiction unions comply with only so long as the general system is working for them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

This, at this point we're uhh.. kinda... fucked

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I mean honestly, this country has needed a good general strike for a long fucking time, for a lot of reasons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What we need is labor to group together and start buying their own courts and judges.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I suspect that funding worker organizing would yield greater results

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Half the unions will be dissolved due to lack of work shortly, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Trump, and the Republicans in general, seriously underestimate just how much stuff the US government actually does, and how much institutional knowledge is required to do it. A widespread federal worker strike would be disastrous for them, and trying to replace all of those people with lackeys would be even more disastrous, because none of them would have the slightest clue what they are doing. And yes, I'm well aware that the Republicans are trying to sabotage the government, but going about it this way would have the opposite effect; everything coming crashing to a halt overnight would drive home to voters, in a really big way, just how much it is that the government actually does for people.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are there enough lackeys? If quality falls through the floor as well, won't it just further cement how dumb this whole strategy is? We may be taking lessons that it'll take a few years to learn but...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then they just privatize it and give it all to their wealthy buddies. For the things that they will even bother replacing... They want this shit to fail and they will replace most of it with nothing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Creation is always more difficult than destruction, and none of our society was built without some kind of need. Most people like to build with others. Some take advantage of that spirit and become leaders for the sake of leading. Only morons would simultaneously covet power and actively work against people's basic motivations.

I am working with others to actively fight should it come to that. But no matter what, we escaped the dark ages once, we'll do so again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Probably not, when you consider that he’s also about to deport a lot of your farm and construction workers…maybe he’ll find a way to get retirees, most of who will be his supporters, back to work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s also pretty damn close to what Trump genuinely wants - for everyone currently doing the work to quit. That way he can install lackeys across the board.

This plan only works if employees are indeed replaceable cogs. The thought is, "If employees quit, then we can simply replace them all". "Unskilled labor" as it were. This assumption is common in management circles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

There's also the not-so-secret goal of dismantling the government from the inside. The Republicans have been openly running with that one for 45 years