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Word. I've been watching a really good Streamer who makes her own models, she has very little viewers compared to how consistently she has been streaming for several years and how good her streams are (IMO). She has other sources of income so it's not a big deal for her, but if you were trying to get out of unemployment with that it seems really tough.
I've sat in voice chats with Vtubers as they made mad scientist level stuff with their avatars, with visual programming and blendshapes and api hookups and a bunch of shit that i don't understand. And they were doing it for 10 viewers.
Yeah , Twitch/YT have the worst promotional and discovery algorithms for streaming creators/entertainers. Every streamer I watch that isn't from the early days of Twitch/Justin.tv says they had to build a content creation platform elsewhere and move them to Twitch to get any movement. And these creators still only get 500-2000 viewers at most.
And at that point the question becomes, why bring these viewers to Twitch? If you can build an audience on YouTube, that's your income right there, you don't need to stream for Twitch where you'll make a lot less money. Either you do it for the love or you don't do it.
Aside from those who have like 5k viewers (<0.1% of streamers), Twitch creators make less money than they would on another platform with another kind of content. This is good for me as an audience member because it means most streamers (that i watch anyway) are doing it out of passion, but it's bad for the platform because it means they're not profitable. Daddy Bezos can pull the plug on the Twitch money pit any day
Yeah, there’s a reason TikTok had so many streamers promoting themselves. TikTok’s discovery algorithm was top-notch, so people would use it to widen their audiences and convert them to twitch subs.
I was a low effort TikTok poster, and even I had over 50k followers without trying. If I was able to convert even 1% of that over to Twitch, that’s 5000 followers which is enough to at least stream regularly.
Could you drop a link? Now I'm curious :)
Sure!
https://www.twitch.tv/melonypepon
https://www.youtube.com/@melonypepon2266
For more info on the creator, since this isn't linked anywhere on the Melony accounts (she's generally not that good at (or interested in) keeping up the kayfabe, so it's probably fair game to link this from the get-go): https://www.twitch.tv/cubewatermelon/about
Why? This dude has nothing but time. He was on the parents' dime for more than a decade.
Would need $$ for equipment to get started
Would need knowledge to set the whole thing up
Would need to be able to talk and interest dudes to attract and retain clients Individual described does not seem like a genius or go-getter that could pull this off
Yeah, and the being funny and charismatic part is nontrivial. If you are the born entertainer already, sure. If not, well...