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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

And why is that an issue? It's typing data sent to a language model. What nefarious info might they be looking for? Learning to imitate humans? Fingerprinting? Making the best virtual keyboard asmr?

[–] Senal 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

If you've got nothing to hide you don't have to worry ?


edit : For clarification, i consider "If you've got nothing to hide you don't have to worry" to be a naive argument, at best, in any privacy conversation, but I'm not averse to a well-reasoned argument to the contrary.

The wording here was unclear, what i mean to ask was:

"do you believe If you've got nothing to hide you don't have to worry ?"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Beware! Anything you type into a Google search is sent to Google's servers!

[–] Senal 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i mean....yes? that is generally how search platforms work.

I wouldn't recommend anybody use any google based stuff directly (or at all, if possible) but if you do, then sending the search query is generally what would happen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's the point. There is nothing strange or shady about the fact that things you type into DeepSeek.com are sent to DeepSeek.com. Obviously keystrokes you submit to a website are submitted to the website.

[–] Senal 2 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, the whole article could be reductively summed up as

"DeepSeek and all the other LLM services are almost as bad as each other, but we think deepseek is worse....because the Chinese government are known for doing bad things".

The title is factual, if a little clickbaity.

Obviously keystrokes you submit to a website are submitted to the website.

This though, it's not technically accurate, a lot of forms and input are done client side and then the resulting information is parceled up and sent to the server.

The actual keystroke data isn't normally sent.

Though this article doesn't go in to what kind of keystroke data is sent, if it was something more than just which keys in which order then that's perhaps an indicator that it's actively being collected for a reason, rather than just incidentally.

If you want to get really paranoid about such things it's known that you can you can do interesting things with actual keystroke data.

Also, afaict none of the the non-chinese services have specified that they don't do this.

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