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Bullshit. I voted against my conscience because I knew orange would harm people I love. It wasn’t enough.
Dems didn’t offer anything compelling because they are a failed party that can only drive votes with threats of even worse. It’s pretty easy to not fund a genocide and lie and say it isn’t happening when it clearly is. Dems can blame only themselves for poor turnout.
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What the fuck are you saying?
That I didn't vote because I knew trump was worse? I voted.
"We're fighting fascism," or whatever they were saying. They didn't convince enough people to vote for them.
Regan called the head (premiere, president, I don't know) of Israel to tell them to calm down and the did. I'm not forgetting things. You don't know history.
Again:
Wait did I forget how he took us out of the Iran deal to limit their nuclear program?
Grow up.
That is the exact opposite of how it works. The deal limited their progress, Trump canceling the deal gave them free reign to continue unimpeded.
What is it with you lot and ignoring your own advice?
Yeah, I voted blue, but I knew this was going to happen regardless of who won.
At least with the blue team they're less likely to bend to protests...red team will just send the boots to step directly on you.
That’s why politics for ordinary people needs to go way beyond voting.
If voting isnt enough it means politics is basically inaccessible to those struggling just to make ends meet. With what time does a starving man get to meet with their representative, which representative would even give him an audiance.
Sure, if you’re on the edge of survival then that comes first. But I don’t think that’s the case for most people engaged in this conversation. Very few people in developed countries are literally starving.
But you’re right that this is unfair to people who pouring all of their energy into basic survival. In a better, more liberated world of the future, I hope voting will be sufficient. But that’s just not the world of today. We live in a world where we got to choose between two candidates who both favored materially supporting the murder of thousands of Palestinian children. Between killing the biosphere slowly or quickly. Between brazen corruption or discrete corruption.
That’s not a world where voting is anywhere close to enough.
But this is also why I think mutual aid is the single most important political action right now. If we can provide for and protect our community, this builds up our power naturally and gives those people experiencing hardship a chance to participate as well. And once we are united we are unstoppable.
So what? You still did the right/smart thing.
A failed party with a history of voting in favor of the middle/lower classes, who have provided affordable healthcare, strengthened worker rights/unions, lowered prescription drug costs, banned medical debt from showing up on credit reports, invested in clean energy, placed regulations on companies harming our environment, etc etc etc?
When are you going to stop blaming Dems and start accepting that an amoral party was able to convince a terrifying number of stupid Americans to vote against their own interests utilizing propaganda? It's not like it's the first time in history that's happened.
Both are true at the same time. She failed to condemn a genocide. Are you telling me that you think all those students protesting didn't matter?
There were no "threats," just pointing out real shit...
That's a threat, don't pretend to be stupid
No, it was an appeal to common sense, which apparently an absolutely terrifying number of Americans lack.