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Nowadays very few people in this side of the pond think Europe is worst than the US, and I'm actually living in a country which is pretty much at the tail of the EU wealthwise and hearing that viewpoint from people who old enough and from humble enough origins to have lived in actual misery when this country was a Fascist shithole. As far as I can tell most people around think that at the moment EU is the safest and most prosperous place to live in the World.
People did use to look up to the US maybe 2 decades ago and before, but then the long-term results of Neoliberal Capitalism started to reveal themselves and shitstains like this guy and Trump got into the scene (gleefully followed by the rest of the Republican party and even the Democrat party leadership) and the perception of the US went from "Prosperous Land Of Opportunity" to "Dangerous and Decaying Country".
The American Dream has been murdered and people like Musk are just plunging the knife a couple more times into its already cooling down corpse.
There is quite a massive problem of europans increasingly choosing similary shitty politicians ( so far hungary and slovakia are the worst cases ).
Orbán is falling tho. It's going to be a fight, but he is consistently way behind in the polls and for the first time in 20 years, mainstream Hungarian public opinion is squarely against him.
2026 might be it. Hope I didn't jinx it.
Why is he even so popular. If any serious politician even looked in the russian direction in Poland he would crucified. I always thought it was common among post soviet states. And yer here we are in 2025 with fico in slovakia and orban in hungary.
We were the "happiest barracks" of the Warsaw Pact, and since there was no real revolutionary push in the 90s, the people in power never really left. The current minister of interior was chief of police for example.
Also, he's not that popular, never was. What happened is that the remains of the old regime, the Hungarian Socialist Party was so corrupt and inefficient that there was a major upheaval against them in 2006. Orbán rode that wave to a supermajority in 2010, and immediately changed the election system from something okay to the most fucked up version of FPTP imaginable, literally worse than the US system.
Then the disgraced socialist leader never left, and still had enough followers to keep a 5-15% party alive, which basically destroyed the hope of any opposition party emerging and succeeding on the left, since he would be a spoiler to any opposition party that wasn't him, and he was and still is so unpopular that people still choose Orbán over him.
So Orbán could very easily keep a 2/3 supermajority with a ~30% approval rating up till last year. The new opposition is trying to form a new right-wing party that is not aligned with the old leftist opposition. It seems to be working.