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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The removal of headphone jacks or sdcards have nothing to do with ip68 rating. It's to sell adapters and to make you pay a lot for extra storage

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Oh man, FYI you can't get an IP68 rating with a headphone jack alone unless you manually cover the slot each time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Asus zenphone 10, for example. IP68, headphone jack

I'm sure there are and have been others

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its IP65 if the headphone jack isnt covered. Per the manufacturer's website for this phone model:

The device has been tested for water resistance using IEC 60529 standard and has achieved an IP65/68 rating. Water and dust resistance can deteriorate over time in normal usage, or if the device is damaged, repaired or taken apart. The device should never be completely submerged underwater, and should not be allowed to come into contact with seawater, brine, chlorinated water or drinks. Failure to observe correct precautions will invalidate the device warranty and the function of water and dust resistance. Water resistance is tested by submerging the device to a depth of 1.5 meters in tap water for 30 minutes. After the test the device is removed and fully dried, then checked for normal operation. Please note that the device has a USB-C charging port, and this USB-C port must be completely dry before any attempt is made at charging. For related warranty information, please refer to the product warranty card.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't see that mentioning anything about covering the headphone jack before the test. As I understand it, being ip65/68 means it's both, where 65 is "low power spray" and 68 is "immersion", not that it's 68 only if some unspecified conditions are applied

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am sorry, I am unable to find any kind of video that shows the Asus Zenfone 10 IP68 test.

I do see this post though: https://zentalk.asus.com/t5/zenfone-10/welp-think-my-zenfone-10-just-died/td-p/414686

As well as a notice from Asus: https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1046136/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still nothing to support that it's not actually ip68 rated as advertised.

Perhaps you're just wrong it this? It's fine to be wrong sometimes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I might be

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

say that to my xperia with ip68 and a headphone jack, or my s9+ which had ip68 and a headphone jack, or my s7 that had ip68 and a headphone jack, or...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok, I'll say that to your xperia, s9+, and s7

Per manufacturer's website for xperia:

This device is water resistant and protected against dust. All ports and attached covers should be firmly closed. Do not put the device completely underwater or expose it to seawater, salt water, chlorinated water or liquids such as drinks. Abuse and improper use of device will invalidate the limited warranty. The device has been tested under Ingress Protection rating IP65/68. Sony devices that are tested for their water-resistant abilities are placed gently inside a container filled with tap water and lowered to a depth of 1.5 meters. After 30 minutes in the container, the device is gently taken out and its functions and features are tested. Note this model has a capless USB port to connect and charge. The USB port needs to be completely dry before charging.

Per manufacturer's website for s9+:

Water-resistant and dustproof based on IP67 Rating, which tests submersion up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes. Not shockproof.

Per manufacturer's website for s7:

Water-resistant and dustproof based on IP67 Rating, which tests submersion up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes. Not shockproof.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

xperia 5 iii (my device) official website: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-tablets-mobile-phones/xperia-5-iii/specifications

s9+ official website: https://www.samsung.com/levant/support/mobile-devices/galaxy-s9-s9-plus-are-galaxy-s9-and-s9-plus-dust-and-water-resistant-ip68-rating/

s7 official website: https://www.samsung.com/levant/business/smartphones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s7-g930f-sm-g930fzdamid/

all rated for ip68, all with a headphone jack. every company lacks water damage warranty because of the nature of being unable to tell if you were using it within spec or not.

not the hill i would die on, also confused where the hell you even got those quotes?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Read the footnotes on those sites, you silly goose...

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-tablets-mobile-phones/xperia-5-iii/specifications

This products is water resistant and protected against dust. All ports and attached covers should be firmly closed. Do not put the device completely underwater or expose it to seawater, salt water, chlorinated water, or liquids such as drinks. Abuse and improper use of device will invalidate warranty. The device has been tested under Ingress Protection rating IP65/68. Sony devices that are tested for their water resistant abilities are placed gently inside a container filled with tap water and lowered to a depth of 1.5 meters. After 30 minutes in the container, the device is gently taken out and its functions and features are tested. Note this module has a capless USB port to connect and charge. The USB port needs to be completely dry before charging.

https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/samsung-galaxy-s7--32gb---unlocked---black-onyx-sm-g930uzkaxaa/

Water-resistant and dustproof based on IP67 Rating, which tests submersion up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes. Not shockproof.

https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s9plus-64gb--unlocked--sm-g965uzkaxaa/

Water-resistant and dustproof based on IP67 Rating, which tests submersion up to 1 meter for up to 30 minutes. Not shockproof.

Do you want me to make a video that shows you where that is on the page?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

okay do youre just trolling

s7:

s9:

this page doesnt have a footnote, the information is where it should be

xperia:

it says in the text you pasted that the usb port is capless, that text is pasted from every other footnote they have to put legally, from a time that devices did have a water cap for ports

these companies wouldnt be allowed to say their device is ip68 rated if it needed a cap in the ports, so not only are you just making shit up youre also wrong anyway?? ill be blocking you now since you're obviously trolling. so keep posting nonsense i guess

.world users man

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

On the samsung phones, click to show the full specifications. Then go down to the dust resistant spec and hover over the question mark.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Source?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For which phone model would you like me to look up the manufacturer's website for you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just have to prove your own words. Leaving your comment here in case you forgot 🙂

"Oh man, FYI you can't get an IP68 rating with a headphone jack alone unless you manually cover the slot each time."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Waiting for the phone model so I can pull up the specifications that will have this information. I don't keep a list of phones that have a 3.5mm port on me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you don't have any source that shows ip68 specifications mentions anything about headphone jacks. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its per phone:

For the sony xperia, check out footnote 5:

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-tablets-mobile-phones/xperia-5-iii/specifications

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Exactly my point, some phones has the restriction doesn't mean it is impossible

https://www.samsung.com/us/app/smartphones/galaxy-s9/specs/

This doesn't mention closing any port