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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Monitor me all you want. Monitor me while you suck my balls.

What are you going to do about it? Nothing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You think the trump regime is going to do nothing with a list of people who are opposed to the crimes of the rich?

Violent autocrats love lists of people to persecute and kill. That's been a hallmark of trump style regimes since at least sulla in the roman republic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

killing everyone who are opposed would mean decimating their source of income, the working class. you know they can't do it to all of us.. so we better make sure they know we know that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think trump has some pretty dark plans but infighting and a focus on drama will derail a lot of them like it did last time. True authoritarianism is too complex for his cabinet to pull off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

That's a very optimistic position.

I think it overestimates the competence of fascists past and underestimates people like Leonard Leo who orchestrated the fascist take over of the courts and has publicly committed to doing the same to every major industry and institution.

Either way we'll find out I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Far more scary than Trump would be a president with the same ideas he espouses but who actually is a true believer (rather than somebody who just says what he thinks people want to hear), competent and persistent in taking his promises all the way (instead of a flip-flopper like Trump).

It's the reason why the Democrat Party going even more to the Right is dangerous: it's keeps the Republicans in Fascist territory and sooner or later they'll produce America's very own Hitler rather than "just" Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. Mike Johnson and guys like him scare the fuck out of me. With JD 'Couchfucker' Vance as their catspaw, they are capable of organized evil.

Everyone had a good laugh about the porn surveillance with his son using Covenant Eyes. Few caught that the program is used by true believing evangelical fundamentalists and what it actually means. At this point, I'm more worried about what comes after Chump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

I'm not an American or live in the US but I did live in the UK (which is even more into civil society surveillance than the US) and as I come from a country which was once a dictatorship complete with a secret police and political prisioners, I've always been wary of surveillance because it's a lot easier for Democracy to be subverted (as became clear with the Snowden revelations) and even crumble (as we see right now all over the West) than people think, and even the most innocuous activities might put you in a list of enemies of the State (I'm pretty sure my membership of a Ecologist organisation and a small Leftwing party would more than suffice) so best avoid getting your activities tracked and recorded for all eternity in some database.

There is no such thing as a good bulk surveillance system, even if done with the best of intentions (itself something that is doubtful, given that what is actually done with those things is invariably hidden behind a cover of State Secret, so the watchers just watch themselves, a recipe for abuse which most politicians are educated enough to be aware of) would still run the risk of later being abused when people with not so good intentions got their hands on all that data of what people had done before recorded by the "good intentions" people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To some level I agree but at the same time we shouldn’t dismiss the threat potential

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Certainly not. We need to throw up roadblocks wherever we can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The threshold is creeping anyway, may as well dip into accelerationism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

"let a few Into the castle and that will wake up the peasants so they join us on the walls."

That's how accelerationism sounds to me.