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PEP 735 does dependency group solve anything? (peps.python.org)
submitted 2 weeks ago by logging_strict to c/python
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PEP 735 what is it's goal? Does it solve our dependency hell issue?

A deep dive and out comes this limitation

The mutual compatibility of Dependency Groups is not guaranteed.

-- https://peps.python.org/pep-0735/#lockfile-generation

Huh?! Why not?

mutual compatibility or go pound sand!

pip install -r requirements/dev.lock
pip install -r requirements/kit.lock -r requirements/manage.lock

The above code, purposefully, does not afford pip a fighting chance. If there are incompatibilities, it'll come out when trying randomized combinations.

Without a means to test for and guarantee mutual compatibility, end users will always find themselves in dependency hell.

Any combination of requirement files (or dependency groups), intended for the same venv, MUST always work!

What if this is scaled further, instead of one package, a chain of packages?!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Wait. So there's a tool that allows you to validate pyproject.toml files (since this file can be extended by any tool), and that somehow proves that dependency declarations in pyproject.toml are schemaless? They literally use a JSON Schema for validating exactly this: https://validate-pyproject.readthedocs.io/en/latest/json-schemas.html

[โ€“] logging_strict 1 points 1 week ago

Ignoring concurrency.

For a write to be transactional, validate-pyproject would need to be called:

Once prior to the read and again prior to the write.

Is that occurring always?

Haven't checked if validate-pyproject has an API, so can be called on a str rather than only a file.