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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

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Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[–] [email protected] 191 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I largely agree with what you’re saying, except the official Proton Mastadon account doubled down on that personal opinion. That seems pretty clear that it’s endorsed not just by that one individual on the board.

[–] AnAmericanPotato 76 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Archives in case they delete it:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250115165213/https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

https://archive.is/lBQd8

Text copy of their post:


Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation.

Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote.

At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand.

Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Looks like backing up the post was a good call.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

This doesn’t seem bad? Its true dems embraced the corporate side. The republicans suck and are only going after tech until tech bows down to them (like zuck has been doing) but the post isn’t really outrageous or worse than the first tweet

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This doesn’t seem bad? Its true dems embraced the corporate side.

Are you trying to argue that R is less entrenched with rich oligarchs and corporate money than the Dems? Because I musk object if so.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No I’m saying Dems moved to the right and aren’t representing the people who historically have voted for them because they’re chasing the corporate donors and right wingers

Republicans have always been worst and still are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

No I’m saying Dems moved to the right and aren’t representing the people who historically have voted for them because they’re chasing the corporate donors and right wingers

Well on this specific detail we agree entirely!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 16 hours ago

Right? So much of this seems like people not able to tell if actions are good or bad independent of who takes the action. There's no way their team could ever do anything bad, and anything done by the other team is automatically bad.

God forbid you try to reinforce a rare good behavior from someone who's also done a lot of horrendous things.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just puked a little after reading that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here’s what I don’t get: if the leadership at Proton believes this shit, why share it on social media at all? It clearly isn’t going to make anyone in the left happy. Are they trying to capture porn-loving MAGA?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago

Appeasement to the fascists so they don't get banned like they did to tiktok (I assume)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Can you screenshot it? The link doesn’t load