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Why are these anti-third party posts being spammed all of a sudden?
You lost by far greater than the number of third party voters. Not that it would even discredit a third party if you lost by less than that amount, because we're supposed to pick the best candidate, not the randomly chosen "best bet" that's complicit in genocide. This is disgusting.
To be clear, it the vast majority of Americans who lost with the reults of this election.
The fascist takeover you think is happening now happened long, long ago.
Coming to this realization myself. The coup happened in 2000. The false election of Bush was the first step on the path to Citizen's United, at which point corporate interests bought America out from under the noses of its civilians.
The country I was born in collapsed before I was old enough to vote. We're just starting to find out what that means.
I'm really not sure where I'd point to further back then that, though. Certainly, I'll entertain any argument that points the finger toward Reagan, but that feels too far back. The thing is, the election of 2000 really seems like the moment the U.S. became fully captured, the moment non-violent resistance became impossible. It was the first time since the 1800s that a candidate won the popular vote but lost the EC, a trend that has continued. Our election was clearly meddled with in Florida, but no one really cared, so we just let them get away with it. Eventually, Bush appointed Alito and Roberts. While both replaced conservative justices, Sandra O'Connor was more of a moderate and could sometimes agree with more liberal justices. Meanwhile, Alito and Roberts are hardliners who secured the 4th and 5th votes for Citizen's United.
Maybe the way they got there didn't matter, and America was doomed to fall after decades of unregulated capitalism, but think about the lessons learned from 2000. Billionaires found out they could rig an election, get whatever they wanted, and the American public wouldn't even notice. That feels like a pretty damning moment.
Apparently you can't call losers of an election "losers". Glad i don't live there at least. Hope you enjoy Trump, truly well deseved.
As for the genocide. Do you think pushing the political opinion harder towards genocide is a good idea?
I'm sorry, is this a serious response?
Answer the question instead of asking a slightly condescending rhetorical question.
Got a second question too. Do you really think that letting Trump win creates a bigger chance of changing the "first past the post" system you seem to like so much?
I did not "push the political opinion harder towards genocide". It seems to me just an insane response that you would even ask that. No point in engaging with people who want to derail a conversation.
Really? So you didn't vote for a third party that would inevitably lead to Trump getting elected?
It is, because it is. I cant frame it in any way that makes you look good.
Do, please, argue the point. Instead of deflecting.
Now count the protest voters as well. Let’s see how that changes things.
All non-D/R votes totalled 1.99%. That includes 0.49% for RFK and 0.42% for Chase Oliver (Libertarian). That leaves 1.08% for all other votes (only 0.55% for Green). Harris lost by 1.43%.
The most important point is that 98.01% of you VOTED FOR A WAR CRIMINAL.
Now count the NON voters. See how that changes things. And no one voted for a war criminal. Trump is a career convict, but not many people here voted for him.
Count the non-voters? What the fuck are you even talking about? Turnout was 63.9%.
International and domestic law says differently. Starting at 18 USC 1091.
Nearly ninety million people didn’t vote in 2024. I would imagine a large portion of this number is represented by butthurt single-issue “voters” that opted out to “sEnD a mEsSaGe!”
And I don’t give a show what law you cite that you think makes you appear to have a point:
No charges = false accusation.
Also, Kamala wasn’t calling the shots as far as what America’s involvement was in Palestine, genius. So I’ve no clue what the fuck you think you’re talking about, but at least it’s somewhat funny!
How about some data.
So if Hitler never got charged, he never did anything wrong?
The fuck dude?
Did everything a VP could. Namely spreading genocidal incitement propaganda.
How many times are you going to invoke your “bUt hiTLeR!” argument before you give it- and the rest of this community a rest?
And data? How about you look it up for yourself. Or is that asking too much of someone that has spent the better part of the day spouting rhetoric and false accusations?
Too funny…
I mentioned Hitler twice. First one described what actual actions the top-level act of committing genocide consists of. Second one dispels your false implication that a conviction of a crime is required for someone to be guilty of it. Notice how both of these contradict some bullshit argument that you made, but then to respond you just childishly try to boil them down to "bUT HiTleR" because you can't deal with the facts. Same as the bullshit claim you made that a "large portion" of 90 million non-voters (what percent is "large"?) opted out to, your phrasing, "sEnD a mEsSaGe". I asked you to back it up, you refuse. Then you do a mirror accusation back at me claiming I'm "spouting rhetoric and false accusations".
Classic DARVO. The fuck are you even doing?
I thought I was in your words: a “bad faith commenter, missing soul”
And… this you?
If we can’t count on you to walk away when you say you’re done, how can you expect us to believe your ridiculous accusations and false premises when you post them all day long?
Go on now. Walk away. Make believers of all of us.