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YSK There’s someone running around Lemmy posting misinformation against Wikipedia (ponder.cat)

submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
Narrative is fundamentally false
Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Quoting myself from elsewhere:

This is how modern social media propaganda works. One person says wikipedia is kowtowing to fascist governments and doxxing its members. That turns out to be bullshit, but during the discussion someone else says that $300 million “excess” went missing and no one knows where it went, implying that someone is skimming off money and we shouldn’t be donating because the whole thing is corrupt. That turns out to be bullshit, but during the discussion someone else says that wikipedia is slanting all its coverage to a pro-Western, pro-Israel slant and covering up the truth through a narrative enforcing task force. That turns out to be bullshit, but during the discussion, someone else combs through their financials and finds out that the CEO is making some money, and uses phrases like “bleeding the foundation dry” or “all while content is created by volunteers.”

You can look through my profile to see the exchanges where people say all of those things and then I respond, if you want to see in depth where and how people are saying it, and my arguments for why it isn’t true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I had heard a long time ago that Wikipedia donations are largely useless and haven't actually gone to anything but profits in awhile. That second part however is demonstrably false with Wikipedia one of the few information outlets that CORRECTLY label Israel's actions as genoicde.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Their financial statements are public: https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/financial-reports/

There's no profit, since they are a nonprofit. They have a couple of years' operating expenses saved up, which is nice. They've been giving away a lot of it to various research projects, and they pay everyone a comfortable salary, which is also nice. People in the comments have been assuring me that this is a sign that they're incredibly corrupt, for example describing the research project thing as a bad thing (sponsoring "weird" research) or saying it's a problem that they paid the CEO around $700k in one year.

Actually, they started out with the earlier claims like that they were friendly with fascists or that $300M went missing every year, and then only switched over to "their financials are good and they pay salaries, and that's a problem, all they should need to pay is hosting" once all the earlier stuff failed to hit. It doesn't sound like they're hurting for money, but maybe being aggressive about soliciting donations is the reason they're not hurting for money. They don't get substantial income from anything other than donations, it looks like. But yes, if you wanted to support a project that really needs it, maybe the Internet Archive is a better place to start.