this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2023
678 points (92.6% liked)
Fuck Cars
9661 readers
71 users here now
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
One of those options emits carbon and drives humanity closer to extinction and one doesn't. Do you prefer the time saving convenient genocide, or walking?
Mate, so long as we ship plastic across the pacific, cruises still exist, and execs fly private planes, thats a non-starter.
Further more, those buses would run empty most of the time, causing more emissions than if people just drove. Have you even been to rural America?
That's why we should have electric trains going to every rural community
Electric trains still have emissions. Not just power, but maintence as well. Overhead lines go down, pantographs leave metal dust everywhere, hell even just normal rail maintence.
Theres a reason why all the American passenger lines went bankrupt, and why Amtrak is funded by the government and still struggling.
And the best part is you'd spend a trillion dollars running lines everywhere, and almost no one would ride it.
Edit: its costs 75,000 dollars per year per mile to maintain electric track. Its completely unfeasible. http://rockymountainrail.org/documents/RMRABP_CH7_OperatingCosts_03.2010.pdf
Did your dumb ass really just pull numbers from the Rocky Mountain Rail Authority, a rail planning committee trying to figure out how to make a train from Denver to Vail and say their numbers are equal to what the rest of the country would experience?
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read and I’ve read several other comments of yours that are close to it.
Its the first one i found that gave actual numbers.