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This is what it's really all about:
The rest is just distractions to keep his dull-witted supporters from thinking too much about the fact that the guy who promised to cut spending - who actually created a new office that was supposedly going to do just that - is pitching a tantrum until Congress proactively raises the debt ceiling for him.
You don't think it's a mixture of that and the other factors included in the article?
No - not particularly.
I don't doubt that they have some gut level opposition to the other things, but I don't think they'd care enough to force a potential government shutdown the week before Christmas or threaten to spend however many millions it'll take to primary Republicans who won't come on board if it wasn't for the debt ceiling.
It's very simple - Trump's been lying all along about cutting spending, and he's trying to avoid having to get the debt ceiling raised by the next congress while he's in office and he'll be the one signing the bill. He's counting on his supporters'dull wits and short attention spans to stop them from paying too much attention to the fact that he's pushing to raise it now, Later on, he'll be able to say that it had nothing to do with him because it was passed by the previous congress and signed by Biden, and the dunderheads will just nod and go along with it.
The rest is diversion, meant specifically so that allied media can run articles like this one, in which they gloss over the debt ceiling (if they mention it at all) and instead talk about the sorts of things that will get Jim Bob Bigot's jockeys in a twist.
This is pretty plausible, barring the conspiracy theories about Trump trying to manipulate media outlets and whatnot. As a Trump voter myself I have always had a HUGE issue with how both Trump and Vance postured about Trump caring about government spending and the national debt despite the fact that he ballooned both the debt and the deficit.