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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

One small sticking point, guns are not the leading cause of death for kids as is claimed here and often, the study they all quote is misleading (intentionally or otherwise).

First of all, that's "kids" age 0-19. 18-19 are certainly legal adults. They can be involved in gang activity (gang recruitment in disenfranchised neighborhoods actually starts much younger than any of us would be comfortable with, sometimes as young as 9-10, it's basically grooming but for bullets not butts.)

Furthermore that study took place in 5 cities, NYC, LA, CHI, PHI, and iirc BAL, cities known for high amounts of gang and drug activity which contributes significantly to the problem of 15-19yo getting shot there. It's not school shootings, it's a different problem (still a problem.)

Finally, that study took place right in the heart of covid, when there actually wasn't much "school" to be shot and car accidents involving kids (the actual highest COD for children) were significantly reduced because they weren't being transported (or driving themselves for 16-19yo) to school in cars. What's more those cities mostly have decent public transport, lowering their chances of car crashes compared to car centric cities even on a normal day. Had the study been more discerning in choice of location I doubt that car accidents would have been "replaced" at all, even during covid.

Now that's not to say school shootings aren't a problem, nor that gang violence isn't also a problem, but a bullshit study is a bullshit study.

And btw, define the "now it's an issue" bit. Are typically pro gun politicians calling for bans over the CEO, where they don't for schools, and thus the hypocrisy? If so I'd like to see it, I haven't even seen the anti gun people calling for it this time, even they're cheering it on.