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[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced that voting for a third party has any positive effect, in one election cycle or over longer time. But I'm open to hearing your perspective.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The false assumption that most make is that one cycle doesn't effect the next.

However, if a third party garners just 5% of the general election vote for POTUS then their platform and higher quality candidate will be on every ballot in the next cycle.

If there's a third choice on every ballot then the the third party platform places tremendous and immediate pressure upon the platforms of the two major parties. The third party doesn't actually win unless the other refuse to compromise. Long term, the continued threat is of greater value than a subsequent victory.

But, the electoral scheme doesn't work unless leftists trust leftists to determine the collective risk of voting third party for the states they reside in. Even Jacobin failed to trust twice.

Things are pretty fucked. Electoral means are slow. I tend to advocate for boycott, strike, and riot (encompassing a wide scope of wisely breaking laws).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I suppose that is a tangible way to affect change under the existing electoral system, so more power to you. I guess, with that in mind, you need to vote third party on an occasion when third party will actually get that 5% threshold, which as you say takes trust.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

need to vote third party on an occasion when third party will actually get that 5% threshold

non sequitur

You weren't really very open to ideas. And, you were the best of the bunch in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's needlessly dismissive, I was repeating my understanding of what you'd said

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you feel that way. Try something different next time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You really had no interest in engaging with me did you? Because I basically fully agreed with you in my previous comment and you said I wasn't open to ideas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You failed to be adequate in either reading comprehension or presentation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago