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The US isn't a Democracy. It's a Capitalist Oligarchy. You know. Like Russia. (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

True that. Yet you still see either party win the elections. In Russia, however? 80% goes to Putin and United Russia. Every. Single. Time.

Even if the people you swap out are corrupt. It's no comparison to how blatantly corrupt a person can be when he knows he'll be in power on practically every election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yet you still see either party win the elections. In Russia, however? 80% goes to Putin and United Russia. Every. Single. Time.

Russia uses the same tricks to constrain participatory democracy as Florida or Texas. Even when a Democrat can win at the local level, the gerrymandered legislature steps in to gut the local government of authority (as Abbott did when he seized HISD).

Yes, you get to do the thing we call voting. But no, you don't get to participate in government.

It’s no comparison to how blatantly corrupt a person can be when he knows he’ll be in power on practically every election cycle

Tell Ken Paxton. Tell Rick Scott. Tell Tim Moore or Chris Kapenga. These are people in office who literally cannot lose, as the state election system operates.

If Republicans manage to move us to "EC votes by House seats" system, they'll have effectively gerrymandered the Presidency. Then there's no way for a Dem to ever win, shy of some absurd lopsided 70/30 election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And even if the Dem DOES win, it’s basically a wash whether it is even a win since those are the same democrats that are in lockstep behind the commodification of healthcare, for profit education, real estate, police militarization, military industrial complex, banking, global shipping, and SO many more industries I failed to mention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Russia uses the same tricks to constrain participatory democracy as Florida or Texas."

Now imagine Texas is the entirety of US, where

  • in some very specific cities you get over 100% participation rate where everybody votes for incumbent whereas the rest of them have like 30-40% with expected vote distribution to boot.
  • Oh, and "electronic voting" (via the internet) where the incumbent always gets 90% of the votes with no way to verify the results.
  • None of the participants are actually independent, and the ones that were are now either jailed or killed.
  • And you have no way to protest the results, because
  1. it's against the law (despite the law contradicting constitution)
  2. the protest will get immediately shut down by the police
  3. every organizer will get jailed

And no, courts will not help. They will always side the government. No matter how ridiculous the accusations are.

That's Russia.

Edit: Forgot to mention that out electoral system is more straightforward, so it doesn't allow for gerrymandering. So it's not even distribution manipulation it's straight up the half of bulletins are fake.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now imagine Texas is the entirety of US

Over half of Trump's cabinet is from Florida

Forgot to mention that out electoral system is more straightforward, so it doesn’t allow for gerrymandering

That's absolutely false

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Over half of Trump's cabinet is from Florida

That's not the point

That's absolutely false

Explain how.

Gerrymandering is manipulation of electoral results using differently drawn district maps. Russia doesn't use districts to decide winners in each one. Instead, all of the votes are combined. Think of it as a one massive district. Whoever gets majority in that one district wins the elections. In this system votes are always proportionate to electorate, therefore gerrymandering cannot physically happen.

Instead, Russia's incumbent uses other ways of electoral fraud. Main ones I have already listed.