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Does that mean that other apps like signal for example have back doors?

Do criminals have a knowledge of exploits in the recommended messaging apps?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

You're missing the #1 reason organized criminals prefer their own service. To have trusted staff who control everything — the servers, code development & deployment — whom can't be ordered by a court to shut off access to individuals at any time, or provide metadata, eavesdrop, etc.

The weakest link with legal services like Signal is that they can be compelled by law enforcement, the judicial system, and government... That's an enormous risk for any organized crime operation. Even a minimal amount of metadata collection can do a lot of damage, especially if it's analyzed over months/years, and especially when performed by an advanced persistent threat actor like a nation state.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I disagree, stupid self developed systems leak so much more, I think the number 1 reason is, surprise surprise, stupid people.

Also plenty of criminals and organized crime also use standard tools like telegram (which is way worse then signal)

[–] refalo 20 points 3 weeks ago

I think you're both right. I think the non-stupid people with successful self-developed systems simply aren't talked about, because they don't get caught, because they're not stupid.

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