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Does that mean that other apps like signal for example have back doors?

Do criminals have a knowledge of exploits in the recommended messaging apps?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

You're missing the #1 reason organized criminals prefer their own service. To have trusted staff who control everything — the servers, code development & deployment — whom can't be ordered by a court to shut off access to individuals at any time, or provide metadata, eavesdrop, etc.

The weakest link with legal services like Signal is that they can be compelled by law enforcement, the judicial system, and government... That's an enormous risk for any organized crime operation. Even a minimal amount of metadata collection can do a lot of damage, especially if it's analyzed over months/years, and especially when performed by an advanced persistent threat actor like a nation state.

[–] Scoopta 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Theoretically signal only has your phone number and time of sign up which means theoretically it shouldn't matter if the legal system asks them for information.

[–] refalo 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yea and if a nation-state knows your phone number, they can track your exact whereabouts in real-time. Let's not pretend like we know better than them about what information matters :)

[–] Scoopta 2 points 3 weeks ago

...yeah and if they went to signal to ask about you they're going to provide signal your phone number as it's the only identifier they have in their system...so the nation state already had that to begin with, it isn't sensitive info despite what it can be used for.

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