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Man, I just checked the thread on /r/technology to see what people were saying. Everyone is shit talking mods - it's a complete sea change since last time I was on. Weird.
Everyone who was pro-blackout is here now.
Leaving nothing but trolls, as expected. Reddit is already dead.
That and repost bots, keeping some artificial copy of the community that used to be alive indefinitely.
I was a bit stunned reading the comments on that post. They weren't just expressing displeasure with the blackout, it was more like "spez is 100% correct to kill 3rd party apps and mods are bad people". My first thought was trolls/astroturfing, but maybe the rules of the game just change that quickly when an addict isn't getting their fix.
prob cause everyone who agrees with the black out has left
The /r/conservative strategy of distilling the use base down to the most ideological conformists. No dissent allowed.
People love to complain, but hate doing anything about it. Moving to lemmy is a bit of work, not much, but enough to deter a lot of idiots. I compare moving to anything Fediverse with moving to Linux. People will always complain about Windows doing this, Windows doing that. So stop using it coward!
That is such a great analogy. I keep trying to get my SO to join Lemmy, but he won't put any effort into learning how it works or getting used to it. I've explained to him what the fediverse is, what instances are, and what Lemmy is at least 3 times already, but then he still got confused the other day and thought Jerboa was another instance instead of an app. It's frustrating. People just love the familiar and don't want to be inconvenienced whatsoever...
Sometimes, gatekeeping can be a good thing, such as here.
Let's not forget reddit has a history of using bots to create the impression that the site is more active than it is. I don't think it's at all unlikely that that's going on here.
It isn’t far fetched that they use AI-powered bots to change the common sentiment about the blackout.
This was exactly my first thought too. Afterall, the API is still free right now too, so they can use as many 3rd party bots as they want to influence public opinion.
FWIW, I saw a decent amount of discontent directed at the blackout in a lot of the subs I frequented.
Some were confused by the mods and had no idea the 3rd apps were a thing. Some were ra-ra capitalism crowd mad that people are protesting the other site's gawd-given right to price gouge. Some were mad the blackouts didn't go far enough...
I think the takeaway is that you can't please everyone.
This ain't my first go as a social media refugee. I get they want to pull a Kevin Rose and cash out. Their board's been fucking with everything I used their site for and how I used their site. As far as I'm concerned, they can get farked.
IMO, the only thing preventing a mass exodus is platform mature enough to capitalize on their fuck-ups.
I would say it's surprising but r/technology has been apathetic to the blackout, and that's being generous. At the same time, it shouldn't be surprising considering its top mod is a reddit admin.
I’m surprised that more subs have been apathetic or disagreeable to a continued blackout. Everybody’s doing polls that turn into keep-us-open-because-community. As @MrJizzard said up above (how can I tag users on here?) maybe blind support for Reddit’s moves is just what happens when users are cut off from scrolling through their content.
It is. Going to the discord of a popular sub I realized that the protest is something that only a vocal minority is willing to take to its end, whatever that is. Most people either don't care or are too preoccupied that they can't kill time on reddit anymore. There's people who are advocating for removing mods just because the sub was closed, completely ignoring the fact that if it weren't for the mods the community wouldn't exist in its current state, the same mods who are the most impacted by the killing of 3rd party apps. I find it insane that people can be so self-absorbed and short-sighted, but that's just how most people are.