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I disavow the ignorance displayed in the statement that “Feminists always think women are better than men.” But felt important to share how well received such a message is received on this site.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, I do think that using the term Feminism for movements that aren't about women seeking equality is kind of a stretch of the original word. If the focus of the movement has changed so much that defining it as the original focus isn't accurate anymore, a new word should be used for the new movement instead. I'm undereducated on modern Feminist theory but this seems to me to be self-evident and I've never seen a good argument why referring to gender-related egalitarianism as Feminism has more positives than negatives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

you should read that work by hooks, it’s linked and available right there

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I noticed it was a direct PDF download (based). I have a 7 hour car ride coming up, if it doesn't make me too carsick I might read it!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you spujb, you're very helpful :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

imo we're also just at a point now where everyone's getting fucked, maybe let's focus on preventing fascism right now and when neonazi parties aren't getting 40% of the votes we can go back to worrying specifically about women's rights. Though aside from that there's also the fact that we're sorta supposed to not be grouping everything into "men" and "women" anymore, so at the very least the term "feminism" feels a bit inherently unsuitable.. Maybe let's just go with working class solidarity yeah?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

feminism is for everyone. solidarity is for everyone. the working class is huge and the history of its successes are often inextricably linked, with both marxist and feminist leaders working together.

you also should read that work by hooks, it’s available and linked right there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Solidarity is the entire point of Intersectionality. How about we have solidarity for everyone's human rights and not toss any group to the side.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

There's room for a few issues at once. Gender still plays an important social role and I won't stop anyone from fighting for justice just because it's not my one chosen issue.