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Ohio governor signs bill limiting bathroom use by transgender students (apnews.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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“It revolves around safety, security, and, I think, common sense. It protects our children and grandchildren in private spaces where they are most vulnerable,” said Republican Ohio state Sen. Jerry Cirino, the bill’s sponsor.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Is there any evidence at all backing such safety and security claims? Has restroom safety ever been jeopardized by transgendered persons? The only news I've ever seen in balls bigoted persons attacking transgendered persons.

And if they want to start protecting children, they should consider looking at the leadership of youth organizations and churches and other places where children have been victimized by the hundreds of thousands.

Sounds like these people should take a look at their book and what their precious Jesus says about such things:

Matthew 7:3-5 Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and look, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye!

Red herring much? Moral equivalence much?

Protecting children starts with your own institutions, not a small subset of people who just want to shit in peace!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They should just listen to their leader's own words:

Leave it the way it is…There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go. They use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate

https://www.yahoo.com/news/resurfaced-clip-shows-trump-did-201220156.html

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Good grief. That's the first time I've seen that clip. The way politicians flip-flop for their own personal gain makes me sick. And that doesn't even touch on the fact that this affects real people at such a basic level.

No one is going to walk around bathrooms inspecting for penises or the lack thereof. At the heart of the matter, no one actually gives a damn. This is all just pure bigotry plain and simple. That and the politics of playing bigots for their votes.

I hope hope hope that people like Sarah McBride will follow people like Mike Johnson into the bathroom and then, from the stall next to him, say every most uncomfortable thing that she can think of to make Johnson rue the day he banned trans women from using the restroom with dignity at their place of work.

Goodness! There's so many real problems in this world. Why are people letting politicians get away from doing their actual jobs and focusing on minutia like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And if they want to start protecting children, they should consider looking at the leadership of youth organizations and churches and other places where children have been victimized by the hundreds of thousands.

The word "if" is papering over a number of sins here.

They don't care about kids, they care about their preferred social hierarchy in which kids are not people but rather property owned by their parents.

The molestation of kids by people in leadership positions is not a felony to them, it's a minor misdemeanor by those in leadership positions who have trespassed upon the property rights of the victims' parents.

Any policy, no matter how evidence-based, will be rejected if it enables kids to exercise their own agency. This is why the existence of trans people is a major social issue for them, trans adults imply trans kids and kids who reject the gender expectations of their parents are seen as less than human and therefore disposable.

Their idea of "protecting children" is to reinforce the parents' property rights over them. That means blocking any policy that enables the state to protect kids from abusive or neglectful parents. They believe that parents have the right to throw out gay or trans kids, and see any attempt by teachers to keep their kids' secrets or affirm any non-allocisheteronormative gender or sexuality as an intolerable government overreach.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So, no there isn't any evidence (at least that I've seen) for trans people being predatory in bathrooms. I have seen lots of stories about trans and "trans-looking" cis women being assaulted, threatened, and harassed in bathrooms. In all fairness though trans people are about 1% of the US population (~3.3m individuals) so statistically it's happened at least once, probably.

This has nothing to do with protecting kids but I wanted to add a few more bible verses that Christians also should contemplate more often.

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Matthew 7:15-20, that is red text (a typographical feature of some bibles, mostly the king james version, where direct quotes from Jesus are set in red text)

"If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet."

Matthew 10:14, That's also red text.

"If possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men."

Romans 12:18

"But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?"

1 John 3:17, a small caveat to this one: brother may refer to other Christians (which is how some versions translate it) but Jesus used brother and sister to refer to all people, and since John was his bestie, it seems like the more fitting interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Nailed it on all counts.

The most heartbreaking thing about religion is how hard its adherents work to NOT actually read, understand, and live the virtues in their scriptures but instead re-interprete, cherry-pick, and choose the most vile parts of them only to tragically embody the evils they accuse everyone else of committing.