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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/17202407

Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes not bigotry just made up bs points that are meant to do nothing but stop trans people from being accepted.

A lot of these points had analogues in the past with other minority rights movements, but why look to the past and see how those points were non-issues when we can instead get mad about the transgenders CoNfUsInG OuR ChIlDrEn.

And

Suicide causes for transgender teens is often reported as bullying or bigotry, but not often reported on the lack of support for dysphoria and other mental health conditions.

This just means we need to let kids be who they are and support them in their transition, that is the only logical conclusion of that issue.

People matter.

Unless they're t****n freaks, then they can get outed to their abusive parents and sent to conversion camps for all I care :^)

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you referring to yourself? No one who loves their children wants to send them to conversion camp. There are definitely discussions to have regarding the proper medical treatments and psychological care and how the involvement of the state and legislature hurts more than helps. But I don't want the state being involved in how we raise our children. I don't want to change children or parents sending their kids to camp. But you can't pretend that parents and our communities aren't involved in the way a child is raised, how they grow mentally and encouraging strengths, and guiding them in a healthy way. Let kids be who they are and make sure they get the support they need.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You say that and yet when a child decides to confide in their teacher for their own safety, instead of their parents, you want them to be forced to out the children.

And the entire "poor confused children" rhetoric doesn't do anything but hurt us. We are not confused, we are devastated by being forced to go through the wrong puberty.

It really doesn't sound like you're a bigot but please examine the sort of rhetoric you take in and spread.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Look, I just got my comment removed for unmarked NSFW content. It was a picture of drag expression with a child involved. My problem is that. I don't want any child to be devastated but just letting children be involved in unsafe for work expression for the sake of letting them have all the freedom is devastating in my eyes. And to hide behind some of the comments here that it's not sexual in nature I cannot believe it does not have a poor effect on the growing identity in children. This is where my "poor confused children" rhetoric comes from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't want any child to be devastated but just letting children be involved in unsafe for work expression for the sake of letting them have all the freedom is devastating in my eyes.

The day is March 14th 2018, walking through the street I see a child selling newspaper yelling "Breaking news! Western civilisation officially over!" Without hesitation, I pick up the newspapers from the kid, the front page reads.

CHILD SEES MAN IN SKIMPY OUTFIT, WESTERN CIVILIZATION FALLS IMMEDIATELY

An unnamed minor has perceived a man dressed in a skimp outfit as part of a drag performance. Police are saying the child was instantly annihilated before it could even mutter "Mommy why this man has girls dress on?" The body of the child could not be recovered from the scene.

This event also instantly destroyed Western Civilization™ and all major first world governments are currently destroyed or in crisis.

Shedding but a single tear I fall to my knees and exclaim "IF ONLY THEY BROUGHT THE CHILD TO A PLACE WHERE NORMAL PEOPLE ARE DRESSED SEXUALLY LIKE HOOTERS, NOOOOOOOOO!"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Lol you're funny. But I've never been to hooters, nor would think to take my kids there, if the emphasis of the restaurant is sexualizing women. But why do you bring that up? Are they walking around in thongs and nipple pasties at hooters?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago
  1. Most drag shows don't have that sort of content.

  2. I wouldn't bring a child to a drag show that does but honestly I don't care that much, children have seen worse shit.

  3. No one is arguing every child should have to be brought to a drag show where people are in thongs.

  4. This is a non-issue and happens to like a dozen people per year worldwide, meanwhile transphobia and lack of access to adequate healthcare and lack of spaces they're allowed to express themselves hurts all trans people everywhere.

  5. What about all the people feeding their children to hungry bears! I yell while posting a link to an article talking about how someone fed their child to a bear once.

I don't know how long I have to keep going.