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Swedish authorities say they have detected a Chinese ship moving near two telecoms cables that failed within hours of each other on the Baltic Sea bed in recent days.

Prosecutors in Stockholm have launched a preliminary investigation into suspected sabotage, hours after Germany dubbed the cable failure part of a “hybrid operation”.

On Sunday morning at about 10am, Swedish authorities registered problems with a data cable under the Baltic Sea from the Öland island to Lithuania. At 4am on Monday, telecoms operators in Finland and Germany reported problems with another cable called C-Lion-1.

Both cables were damaged in the Swedish economic zone, prompting prosecutors in Stockholm to take the investigation lead.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Lemmy.ml users incoming to tell me how that's actually the EU's fault

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

ever since i started using lemmy all I've heard is bad things about that instance so I don't understand why we don't just defederate from them? This is a genuine question to anyone with the answer, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I started there. It's tiring when every international political discussion boils done to China/Russia good because NATO bad. .ml is subtle about it and does a lot of word game shit you see in right wing media. They maintain enough plausible deniability to remain federated. The defederate instances were the one using slurs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Yes, they are more subtle in parroting propaganda, but they block everyone who is only slightly critical of China/Russia. They are the same people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

@[email protected] This puzzles me, too. That instance is a cheap propaganda instance that has been banned by Reddit some time ago for a good reason. I don't know why we don't defederate.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's the instance admined by the authors of Lemmy itself. The official forum is [email protected]. It's a bit disingenuous to ask to defederate from them, unless we want the already tense relationship with the authors of the software to break entirely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well Lemmy is open source, isn't it? So someone could just make a fork of it, can't they?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Of course they could but that's not free. Forked projects are a lot of work. Maybe it would be easier to go for a different software, such as kbin. Or maybe the defederation goes over just fine and arrangements are found easily. I don't know. My point is there's a social component to defederating that's likely a bit bigger than just shutting out Russia/China enjoyers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

I feel used to the internet being full of stupid nonsense, so I just ignore .ml's share, and in a way it's a refreshing balance to the usual genre from e.g. .world and Reddit. Usually it's either run-of-the-mill echo chamber or respectful discussion.

But there's lots of good stuff on .ml too. I'm glad to still be federated.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s just a ridiculous trope, a preemptive threat against posting a non-mainstream stance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Wasn't .ml the second largest instance at one point?

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