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Ukraine fires US-made longer-range missiles into Russia (edition.cnn.com)

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Ukraine fired US-made ATACMS missiles into Russia’s Bryansk region, marking the first time Ukraine has used these longer-range weapons to strike targets deep inside Russia.

The attack comes after the Biden administration authorized Ukraine to use these weapons against targets inside Russia.

In response, President Putin updated Russia’s nuclear doctrine, labeling aggression from non-nuclear states supported by nuclear powers as a joint attack on Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Same is with Ukraine - I do not need them.

You need Europe. The US pulling out of providing aid would be one thing, the US trying to force Ukraine into giving into aggression would be interpreted as blatant betrayal of the alliance by every single European country. Don't expect us to stay allies when you actively work against our security interests, and don't expect us to let it happen. We can defeat Russia in Ukraine, or we can defeat Russia in the Baltics, in Poland. We prefer doing it in Ukraine: Unlike you we know what war is like. Not war as in "dad comes home with shrapnel in his leg and PTSD", war as in "your hometown is gone and everyone is either dead or starving". You have no fucking concept.

And if you think that the US would fare well if Europe considers it a strategic threat... my sweet, sweet, summer child. You'd be unable to afford your own military-industrial complex without those arms exports and that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the economical abyss you'd be in. That would not be popular, and that's also precisely the reason why Trump would rather waterboard himself than risk it. Especially for a loser like Putin who can't even re-take Kursk.

I don’t care. I don’t want to, my life is comfortable.

Life in Ukraine was nice, once, too. Don't think something won't affect you just because you don't want to deal with it. Life ain't a bowl of cherries. Noone is expecting you to fight. Solidarity, though? Think about it. It's what friends do.