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Hey Ontario, are you doing OK?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm certainly not happy with our government, but I'm optimistic that Marit Stiles seems to be starting to figure things out.

I would really like an election with the ONDP and OLP give the OPCs a run for their money.

I think Ontario can do better and I'd like to see us achieving our potential and thriving.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

The problem as I see it is that both the OLP and the ONDP see the other as "taking their voters". "If only those idiots supporting the would vote for us, then we could defeat Doug Ford!"

Meanwhile, if they ran as a semi-coalition, and got out of each others way in a few dozen ridings, they could at least reduce Ford to a minority, or possibly form a coalition. In the absence of proportional representation or a ranked ballot (or both), it's the best way to prevent vote splitting among 60% of Ontario from allowing Ford to win again.

Examples:

Scarborough Centre: If the NDP gets out of the way, it goes from Lean PCPO to Likely OLP
Timiskaming-Cochrane: If the Liberals get out of the way, Lean PCPO → Lean NDP
Algoma-Mnitoulin: Liberals get out of the way, Toss-up NDP/PCPO → Lean NDP
Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte: NDP get out of the way, Toss-up OLP/PCPO → ... okay this one probably stays a toss-up, but the advantage shifts to the OLP from the PCPO.

Notably, I would leave ridings like Humber River—Black Creek out of consideration, as that's a solid 3-way race.

If you're concerned about being able to govern as a coalition, make your #1 priority electoral reform. Get that done and then see where it goes from there.

I took 5 minutes, and looked at one polling aggregator, and found a possible path to moving 4 seats. You need to move ~30 seats to get Ford out of power according to today's polling. If the OLP and ONDP can't work together to find a path to victory for them together, neither of them deserve to lead, IMO.

(Fortunately for me, I get to vote for Catherine Fife (NDP-Waterloo), and her seat is pretty safe)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Minority government led by the ONDP is my best case Ontario.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

In Canadian politics it almost feels like the opposition doesn't ever want to win, just stay as the opposition. They always run the worst most forgettable candidates against the incumbent.