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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Good. Electric cars are a completely unsustainable scam. It's absurd that people are being subsidized for their privileged and wasteful lifestyles. It's gross and it's completely unfair to people who actually want to reverse the climate catastrophe.

End car dependency, rebuild sustainable infrastructure, and give people credits for light EVs instead. For every electric car we could build like 1000 electric bikes. I could get a super nice e-bike for $7500.

Ban cars.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Perfect is the enemy of good. There is no scenario where cars are getting banned in most of the world where EVs are being sold.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One thing I never see addressed with the dream of ending cars and just having bikes is how do first responders operate? How do you transport unconscious people to the hospital? Put out an apartment fire? Get to an armed robbery in time to stop it?

Bikes are great but they also aren't an end all be all solution to society.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

No one wants to eliminate fire trucks and ambulances in favour of bikes.

When people talk about "ending cars" they're talking about private ownership of personal vehicles. It's not necessary to address first responders because that's not what anti-car people are talking about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"never see addressed"? What do you think currently happens in (real, non-hypothetical) cities with good bike infrastructure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dHFC31VtQ&t=365

Oh look, emergency vehicles work even better on bike infrastructure than on car infrastructure

Bicylists and pedestrians can't hard block a firetruck the way car traffic can

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Build more mass transit in outlying areas, but also there are reasons for personal car ownership. My partner uses her personal car to do home health, for example. That is not possible with transit or on a bike. Plus it rains almost 9 months out of the year here, and good rain gear is spendy. I love e-bikes and transit, but electric cars have their place. There is not one solution.