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Tell me you haven't spent much time in the naturalized Latino community, hanging out, asking them about where they came from, asking how they feel about illegal immigrants, without, you know, telling me.
After trump called every stripe of latino, rapists and murderers, and threatened mass deportations, out loud, and often, more latinos voted for donald trump in this election than have ever voted for any republican candidate in any american election before.
It's deluded and destructive, but this is the reality on the ground.
Well I won't feel sorry for them when they get deported along with all the "illegals " they chose the leopard to eat their face on purpose.
yes. agreed. though, once again, working in the community, really opened up my eyes to what a great many naturalized citizens feel is important to them. not all, of course, but it shocked the shit out of me, and no one would have believed it until after they voted.
*edit: it's important to know what your constituency values, and if those things run counter to the basis of secular egalitarian representative democracy, change their minds. just saying well that's stupid and self destructive to the whole, isn't going to win their votes.
I know all about it. I worked in the flooring industry. A lot illegal immigrants doing that work, and some had Trump stickers and blue lives matter stickers.
yep, same, when the guys i work around told me that trump was going to win in 2016, i bet all of them 5 grand he wasn't. i was positive clinton wasn't going to let that happen. glad none of them took me up on it. didn't make that bet this time around with anyone.
So they hate themselves? Or are they delusional enough to think that the Trump administration will weed out the "good" latinos from the "bad" ones?
The ones that voted are by definition here legally, and they're susceptible to the propaganda about illegals coming in and taking jobs and getting all sorts of resources from the government. If you believe that, while your path to citizenship was anything but that, you might start thinking something needs to be done about the border too.
While the border wall stuff is definitely rooted into racism, the economic argument will still speak to immigrants that are in the country legally. Of course, if Trump is serious about "rounding up illegals" or whatever the plan is, a lot of legal residents will also end up caught in the drag net, and it's going to suck for everyone.
for the republicans it literally doesn't matter. they can make up any reason. the eating people pets thing is one example. for some reason people eat this nonsense up gladly. rly shattered my faith in humanity again.
to answer this honestly more than dips the toe into racist stereotypes, and i'd like to have the honest conversation but will suffice to say, the guys i know (and this isn't limited to that small group) appreciate strength, and a heavy hand from their government, almost above all other things.
it would have been advantageous for democrats to have pointed out that, by and large, the nations from which a majority have immigrated from, are corrupt, and dangerous to the point where a living wage is unattainable, and the organs of state either could not or would not keep them and their families safe.
that is what the united states can offer, with a government of by and for the people. now we fall considerably short of this, all the time, and have since the founding fathers, but we have an engine of economy, and relative comparative safety which continue to draw latino immigrants, legal and otherwise.
it's in pointing out the benefits, of a free egalitarian secular representative accountable democracy, which drew they and their families here in the first place, and explain, in detail, how corruption that the MAGA world was threatening, and displayed during Trump's first term, would destroy all that they had come to this country for in the first place.
Yeah, it was kind of a loaded question from my end, apologies. There won't be a singular reason.
I've heard it largely stated as an exaggeration equated to when Obama and Biden said there'd be amnesty for non-criminals, but it never happened. "Better the devil you know" applies here, but they largely think Fed's eye is too big to see them in their small corners.