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[–] [email protected] -5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm sorry just as a matter of policy I'm going to have to downvote you for saying you like java. Nothing personal.

I think some things that were novel when java came out are such old hat at this point the 1990s benefits just aren't benefits anymore. Run anywhere? I'm in a html app right now. As is my IDE and my chat app. Strong interfaces and sane types are only in comparison to the bizarroland of c++ which visibly always seems to basically be word vomit. JIT compilation is in python which is both easier to use and has way better tooling and libraries...making python today run in the "fast enough" category that java was kinda in. I've literally never seen a usable java UI tho.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So you're going to stride past the part where I say "I'm not going to [...] claim that it's better or worse than others", ignore the bulk of my comment on Java being hard to get into, make a point of declaring you'll downvote for stating a personal opinion, then pretend it's "nothing personal"? I'd be curious how that makes sense in your mind.

Anyway, like I said, I see no point in petty tribalism. I like Python and C too - that's not mutually exclusive. I hope you have a pleasant, Java-less day :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I was attempting to combine my genuine belief that nobody has ever written a java app that is any good along with humor. As an end user java has always been the scourge of human existence. I've never written a line of java code and have no opinion on that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure you'd even notice all apps that are made with Java, particularly Enterprise Web apps. But yeah, if you're going for humour, maybe jokingly shitting on people's opinions isn't the safest bet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"not going to engage in tribalism"

Moments later, engages in tribalism

You've really got to lighten up, don't feed the trolls

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

What came across as tribalistic there? Pointing out that you might not immediately see the tech stack of every Web app you use is hardly saying "Java is better", and suggesting to not shit on others' opinions is kinda the opposite: I'm saying your opinion disliking it is fine, just as mine liking it is.

don't feed the trolls

Fuck me for trying to take people in good faith and have constructive conversations

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Minecraft is a decent example of a good java program. People jump to the first silly reason to disregard it. Cope.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

You seem very butthurt over a joke, be chill

Have to admit I didn't know Minecraft was in java. Explains the graphics ;p

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Python and Java are barely comparable. I adore both languages equally and use them about the same amount at work. They are just different tools better suited to different tasks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Care to expound? Why barely comparable? I'd say 90s java and today's python fill a similar niche of barely functional apps with performance issues.