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Look, if these complete morons on the Right want to vote against their self-interests and America, they are beyond help, and all I will do is keep working my a-- off to make sure people understand this.

What we have is a failure to communicate on the Left.

The truth is these people support the America-attacking blowhard because he stirs their cold blood. He makes them feel good about looking backward instead of at all the possibilities ahead. He makes them feel good about thinking they are the only thing that matters and that they have somehow been cheated out of their dark, empty lives.

They don’t want to make America better. They want to make everybody else’s lives worse.

All they are is angry, and have finally found a lewd, racist conman who can put a megaphone to their tantrums, and deal the rest of America plenty of pain. He has no goddamn answers for them or us.

What we have right now is a MASSIVE messaging problem.

From the minute the Biden Administration took power it worked like hell to tackle a global crisis that was exacerbated by the previous administration. I mean, holy s--- even infrastructure got done, and do you know who has benefited most from that? White people.

If that didn't resonate, it’s not because it didn’t happen. It’s because too many people didn’t know about it.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I really hate this idea that Trump supporters are just angry people that want to watch the world burn. They aren’t. They genuinely believe that he will stop things like elite pedophilia, reverse inflation, reverse wage stagnation. Many of them believe he will return Christianity to the country (which I think is the only realistic thing they believe, which in my mind is a bad thing.) They genuinely believe he will save the country. Y’all gotta stop talking about them like they just hate everyone and want the country to burn. It’s just patently wrong and tone deaf and makes you guys look insanely out of touch.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The problem is that they have been brainwashed by 30 years of right-wing media to convince them to never believe anything Democrats say ever. We could tell them literally everything they want to hear and they would say we're lying, or nod along and then go vote for the Republican anyway

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

"Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

he will stop things like elite pedophilia

LOL, he's the face of elite pedophilia.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I know. The irony is strong enough to peel paint.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

angry people that want to watch the world burn

believe he will return Christianity to the country

They're the same picture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It is weird how close that ven diagram is to a circle isn’t it?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Republicans would light their own children on fire if it meant Brown people MIGHT have it worse they they do now. Your charitable ideas about who these racist fascist cunts are in their hearts fails to account for all the COVID vaccine misinformation and outright denial of a) the virus b) the vaccine c) how many were sick and dying d) how many are still sick and dying. But sure, "they just want a better america like we do, folks, god bless us everyone, aw shucks ayuck ayuck ayuck"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Ahh, sense.

But did you consider that maybe they sacrificed their own children to covid because you were a big meanie poo poo head about it (after they already did it)??

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I will welcome these Christians "returning" as soon as they:

a) accept the separation of church and State as inviolate

b) actually read their fucking Bibles

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

American Christianity is a weird different beast than what the Bible actually says and is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Almost like they haven't read their fucking Bibles.

If they had, they'd understand the import of sections like the Gospel of Matthew, ie

Matthew 24 24:

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well reading the Bible made me deconvert so I see why they would not want people to read it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Oh for sure. Learning about religion is the surest path to atheism, but that doesn't excuse charlatans who drape themselves in Christianity's swag.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I have family that are convinced of several of these and any evidence I present is 'fake news' or otherwise handwaved away from not being from their approved sources (and I mean non-affiliated, peer-reviewed papers for stuff as well). It's going to put christianity in some position and take care of the immigration issues, so they believe, and that's what they want.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah yes, another maga apologist. Hopefully eventually people like you will realise that this world is never going to get better while you play in the ball pit eith all the other kids. If republicans dont want to act like adults, then dont treat them like adults. Remove their agency. Ridicule them. Publically shame them every chance you get. The only chance we have of ever fixing this country is to shame the right so completely that we leave it as part of our culture that we dont stand for this bullshit.

You say "your body, my choice" and as far as im concerned you are no longer a human capable of autonomy. You have just forfeited your human rights.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

My sibling in Christ, if there is one thing that did not contribute to Trump winning the election, it is not enough shaming by leftists. If anything there is too much.

Committed Trumpists can't be shamed. They love it when the left try to shame them because that means they're "triggered". And as a result non-political "centrists" who "just want to grill" can't be shamed because they've got people on the one hand telling them they should be ashamed and people on the other telling them they're doing nothing wrong; in fact, they're doing great! Who do you think they'll side with?

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending either of these groups of people. However shame is ultimately only effective when you can convince someone that what they're doing is shameful, and to do that you have to bring them on side first. Yes, it sucks having to play nice and be patient with the "non-committed voter", but ultimately the right has the left outmatched both in the ability use violence and the ability to appeal to people who don't actually want to do anything.

Anyone who says “your body, my choice” is a lost cause though, feel free to punch those people all you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Lol I’m not a maga apologist. It’s an ideology that’s based entirely on stupidity and hatred. Next time you want to say something consider shutting the fuck up instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Word. I understand venting but blaming the voters is not a winning strategy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Exactly. This guy gets it.