this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2024
499 points (98.3% liked)

politics

19088 readers
4779 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (7 children)

trump only picked up 500,000 more votes than last time. Lets hear from the 10,000,000 that voted in 2020 but not this election

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

That parts easy. They voted against trump and got absolutely nothing for it. They went back to being non voters because the dems showed they weren't going to do anything better than trump just had.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Covid killed at least 1,104,000 people in the United States to date. In 2020, about 385,000 were killed with Covid as a contributing cause. I can't find numbers about the total deaths that occurred before election day specifically, but for the sake of simplicity I'm going to use the year total. Just note that the actual number of deaths by that time was somewhat lower.

We can subtract the number that had already passed in 2020 from the total number of deaths to date. That gives us over 716,000 people who died of Covid between the 2020 election and today, and therefore could not have voted in 2024. Also note that the 65+ crowd is historically the most reliable voting demographic by age and Covid laid into that same age group the hardest.

We can be upset at people who didn't turn out to vote this election, but we can't dismiss the significant chunk of 2020 voters who simply weren't alive by 2024.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Why does this even matter? We have an electoral college and turnout in the seven swings state met or exceeded 2020 turnout.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Those people could only be motivated to vote when it was as easy as possible and they had nothing better to do. They voted for the party that would handle COVID better and let them get back to their lives of not worrying about politics.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Maybe related to massive mail voting - just speculation haven’t seen breakdowns.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't you hear? Starlink hacked the Voting Machines and deleted 20,000,000 Harris votes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I mean cheating to win is not even a crazy conspiracy theory. It's all the right has ever had to win, and this year, they had the richest person on the planet who has the technology on their side.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When your platform is all about "hey at least I'm not that guy", it doesn't inspire people to vote

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That was also Biden’s platform. It worked then because we were still in the grips of covid

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was also part of Trump's platform. You can generally take whatever bad thing is happening at the moment and blame it on whoever is in charge in the moment. The only time that doesn't work is when most people agree that things are going well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The Dems also keep running as Republican Light. But if you are interested in Republican Light you’ll probably just vote Republican.

I think Jon Stewart had a good assessment of this the other night and the fact that the messaging coming out of the DNC is “we lost for running too far left” means they will try again next time too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBJoj4XyFc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That was Hillary's platform, Biden's platform, and Harris's platform.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And right after a trump administration.....

[–] Zink 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is the memory of voters really so poor?

How are we supposed to avoid repeating the mistakes of history when the voting public can’t even remember why they scrambled to get out and vote for Biden 4 years ago?

I mean, if Harris lost to somebody like Romney or McCain, sure I could see that voters weren’t excited by the campaign plus the racism/sexism angle. But to just ignore how absolutely insane Trump was as President, and all the open messaging about how next time will be worse, never mind all the criminal and traitorous stuff… it’s insane.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago

you're funny, maybe they might put you in the camps last.