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[–] Mesa 8 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Would you say skin color is relevant in our daily lives just because some people think it is?

Yes. That was my point. Check your privilege. You don't have to be a flagrant racist to subconsciously make decisions and judgements based on race (and gender).

I'm not going to explain how inherent and human biases work. If you care to start making a difference, then it's up to you to understand that you're not perfect and learn how to start changing how you see and affect the world beyond your idealist rose-colored glasses.

I also said nothing about excluding philosophy discussions. Please do not put words in my mouth.

I don't have to.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

I'm just going to ignore you implying I'm a racist and focus on the second part.

Saying "outside of a philosophy discussion" doesn't mean "we can't talk about philosophy," it means it is generally not relevant in terms of the way it is necessary to live our lives.

People make unnecessary things important to them all the time- skin color, religion, ethnicity, etc.

But if you just ignore those things as irrelevant, the only thing that changes is that some people are treated less like shit. Which is my point.

On the other hand, treating people like shit seems like something you're interested in, at least on a one-to-one level.

[–] Mesa 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

You think you're perfect. You are not. No one is. I am not saying you are a racist. You are a human with human biases.

What you've just told me is that you have no interest in discovering and changing yourself to help make a difference. Not to be on any sort of moral high-ground, but I have a really tough time with people that have no desire to learn and improve.

What I'm going to ignore is your assertion that philosophy is not relevant to daily life. That is the stupidest claim in this thread, and it is at the very core of your (subconscious) bigotry. If you can't see that, then there is no next step.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I mean it kinda makes sense, someone who doesn't think that the process of thought is useful not thinking they could make any kind of error.

[–] Mesa 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yep. It's hard to point that out when my reasoning gets sucked into a circular black hole.

I'm done responding. People that can be helped can read this thread in the future and maybe realize something about themselves.

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