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I've often assumed Harris didn't want to insult her boss by going against him, because I got the impression she was planning to give Netanyahu what for once she took over - especially with him escalating things further and further. Did anyone else get that vibe, or was it just wishful thinking on my part?

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[–] sudo 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

By that logic any presidential candidate would be banned from disagreeing with the president on active foreign policy issues which is absolutely not true. There's no legal reason why the VP can't disagree with the president.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

By that logic any presidential candidat

Any Presidential candidate in the current administration. Why do y'all keep skipping over that part?

[–] sudo 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Because your explanation didn't demonstrate why that matters. Any candidate's position can jeopardize ongoing negotiations if its contrary to the current admin.

The VP is very much at liberty to sabotage the current admin. There's illegal ways to do it sure. Like if Harris said "Bibi openly admitted on a confidential line that he's doing genocide." That might be illegal because it was confidential. But she could say "I think Bibi is doing genocide. Biden doesn't, but I think he's wrong". That wouldn't violate any laws, even if it did effect negotiations. Remember the VP is an elected position, not a cabinet member. The president can't fire them.

If you're just speculating then its baseless speculation. You might be right, but you'll have to point to an actual law to prove your point.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

No, the position of a sitting Congressperson is irrelevant to negotiations that are ongoing between the President and another country. The VP is literally the President's surrogate, acting on his behalf and as a member of the National Security Council. That cannot be said about literally anyone else, at least as it pertains to foreign diplomacy. I'd even go so far as to state that the Secretary of State would have the same troubles articulating a vision distinct from the President under which (s)he's actively serving.

That might be illegal

Which is what I said.

even if it did effect negotiations

Which is also what I said.

So....I guess....glad we agree?

Edit: In foreign relations, at the will and as the representative of the President, the Vice President may engage in activities ranging into the highest levels of diplomacy and negotiation and may do so anywhere in the world.

[–] sudo 3 points 3 days ago

You continue to not cite anything but your own baseless speculation and now you're blatantly misquoting me in bad faith.

  • That might be illegal because it was confidential.
  • That wouldn’t violate any laws, even if it did effect negotiations

Fuck off.