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If they were really centrist they'd vote democrat anyway, as that's the centrist party.
Many leftists also vote democrat. Lesser of two evils, a two party system, no ranked choice voting, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Well america does not have a real left tbh ! Many people think of socialism as left wing while it is the economic center , someone supporting social left policies like lgbt rights can be considered liberal , but they can still be against universal healthcare or other socialist polices and then votes dem , coz they are liberal!
Exactly
Depends on the centrist I want a smaller government more than anything which 9 out of 10 times forces me to go republican or libertarian. I like democrat ideas at times but hate their execution. Democrats fumble the ball every time they get it once the Pelosi’s and Bidens are out of the party I might give them another shot.
What do you think of the fact that the GOP is responsible for the vast majority of overspending the US does? They consistently drive up the national deficit every time they're in a position to do so. They deregulate and remove the teeth from federal agencies, bitch about how ineffective the government is at dealing with things, deregulate more, cut taxes for the wealthy, drive up taxes for the poor and middle class, and then shovel our money into the Pentagon. If you were actually compelled by small government and less spending, you'd be voting democrat every time. They're the only ones that actually reduce spending on a federal level
Well said. The right has used the "small government" nonsense line forever. It's amazing how much they get away with by saying one thing and quietly doing basically the opposite. Gullible idiots all over the place.
I don’t even vote at the federal level zero chance Biden or Trump will se my vote in 24. At my local and state level I’m ok with the GOP they have consistently cut my taxes while balancing amenities in my community.
You're a bot.
How are massive subsidies for businesses "smaller government"?
It isn’t I want them gone PPP loans the 08 bailouts never should have happened in my opinion.
PPP loans were Trump's administration and Emergency Economic Stabilization Act was Bush's, why do you still vote for them?
I don’t really vote at the federal level anyway I focus on state and local elections that have more impact on my life. As a christian I don’t feel confident in my ability to answer to god why I picked a certain candidate at that level which is another reason I favor more localized government so politicians are humans in the community again.
I asked a pretty simple question and I wasn't looking for your life story.
Most people want an explanation when I say I don’t vote at the federal level so I kind of get defensive with it. State empowerment movements are growing like crazy it’s a lot easier to admit this in real life than it was even a decade ago.
If you don't vote federally why do you care about Pelosi and Biden?
It seems hypocritical.
They still screw things up for me the federal government takes from my paycheck etc I’m not happy with where the money goes when either side has power.
'Etc' is used to continue a list of like things and you can't can't do that with one item in a list.
All forms on income outside my Roth IRA and 401K.
Am I actually talking to ChatGPT here because it is not making any sense.
Which besides your paycheck is... what exactly? Or are these hypothetical streams of income once you get out of the "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" hole you're in.
The large-language model here has aptly synthesized the thoughts of just about every "centrist" I've ever encountered: Votes Republican based on policies the party allegedly supports but obviously doesn't, won't vote Democratic based on some vague complaint about style, yet perfectly content with all of the egregious things Republicans actually do.
How do you figure the GOP is the party of small government? Tax breaks for the rich? Christian Fascism for the rest?
The Republicans want to take away your right to an abortion. Big government has gone too far!
(Also they love spending on the military)
Claiming to want a smaller government and voting republican... They haven't been small government for 30 years. They collect the same amount, often more, in taxes they just shift the tax burden onto the poor through sales tax (at state levels) instead of keeping progressive taxation. Then they use that money to subsidize rich people. Uneducated morons lap it up and think they are saving money because their state has a lower, or no, state income tax, without realizing they are actually paying more through a higher sales and property tax.