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[–] [email protected] -2 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

All you morons who didn't vote or voted third party are to blame. Why does the left party have to jump hoops for your votes when the other candidate is a legal fascist? You guys are idiots

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

It's a failure on multiple levels. We'd do history a disservice if we don't examine them all and look for ways to fix them.

Voter disillusionment is a thing, and the Democrats failed to properly engage enough voters. The worsening economic situation the Democrats failed to do enough about created an environment known to foster nationalist and supremacist ideologies.

Disinformation campaigns make it worse. All the "vote third party" spoiler advocates and "don't vote for genocide" anti-electionists didn't help. The electorate system making third parties spoilers in the first place hamstrung actual democratic representation. The corporate controlled media bias and refusal to call the fash out for what they are legitimised them.

Free Speech apologists defended the right to spew anti-democratic rhetorics. The "high road" numbskulls left the field to the dirty, but effective tactics of those willing to sacrifice all decency for power. A failure to clearly and understandably communicate the intention of complex proposals favoured the simple, emotionally appealing talking points of the right.

Yes, the voters bear blame too: Republican voters for actively enabling fascism, complacent non-/third-party-voters for failing to effectively and strategically oppose them (moral opposition is good and right, but it doesn't win wars - strategy and cohesion do). But only attacking the symptoms of a fucked up accumulation of problems doesn't solve the root causes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Because democrats aren't the left party and moved even further right in this election

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This argument here, folks. This is neoliberalism fighting against its inevitable end. If the democrats can't put forward a coherent plan for the future outside of "the other people are worse, but we have to keep them around as friends." I voted blue and wish others did as well, but we can't force them to vote or vote for who we want. It is the job of the political class to earn votes, and sadly, the dems just didn't pull out the win, and we are all worse for it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yeah! Why should political parties have to earn your vote in a democracy? Democracy is when you are coerced into voting by a party rather than the party earning your vote by doing things you want.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago

That's like a business saying the public caused them to fail because the public wouldn't buy their shit products. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago

It’s both. Both groups should act as though the other is as much of an unreasonable jackass as they tend to be