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Websites, radio stations, podcasts, and so forth ought to be stood up by party members with access to money—the Harris campaign and associated groups, by the way, spent about $5 billion losing this election—particularly if they can replace genuine local news that has been gutted by private equity and Facebook, or if they are centered on subjects typically neglected by liberals like sports or gaming. The core strategy is to set up publications with progressive views but likely to have broader appeal. Honest partisanship should be the standard, rather than a pretend above-it-all “objective journalism” that in practice means bending reality completely beyond recognition to benefit Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Elon Musk will never let leftist memes rise in popularity in X/Twitter ever again.

And I'm convinced that Gaza/Free Palestine was a TikTok disinformation campaign designed to tear Democrats/leftists apart.

We cannot trust any media. Indeed, we must assume they are working against us.


Building new, mainstream media, that allows our viewpoints to be heard is step#1. Do not rely on Twitter, TikTok, Reddit, Instagram, Threads, BlueSky, WashPo, local newspapers, local Sinclair news, LA Times.

We got like, TheAtlantic, The guardian and maybe PBS Frontline. Not exactly a powerful set of media to spread out viewpoints but it's a start.

Lemmy.world and Mastodon seem like they are okay. But as noncorporate entities they will never be mainstream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's easy to feel like X is just a fascist wasteland, but guys Medhi Hasan still frequently reach millions of people. Even if we're yelling into the firehose of BS the reach is still orders of magnitude higher than platforms like this. I still prefer here much greater, but we aren't the ones that need to hear this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

We will not win the meme war when Elon Musk can silence our memes and outreach on Twitter through algorithmic manipulation.

It's just like how Ukrainians keep getting censored on Twitter. It's simply not a fair fight, the owner and algorithms are literally against you, and you likely have teams of internal Twitter programmers being commanded to tailor make algorithms to fight us.

We need social media we can trust. Lemmy is one of them but is too small. But we are somewhat safe here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The goal is not to win, but to simply make it clear that counter-arguments and opposition do exist so people are not as quick to take those posts as established fact and make up their minds based on poor information.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

And you think you can do that when your opponent literally controls the outreach of your messages?

There is a +Elon Musk boost to Elons messages on Twitter. Furthermore, all the pro-Ukrainian posts systematically become NSFW and hidden from the timeline. Even when it is totally safe to view (like cute cat videos being shared by Ukrainian soldiers).

How the fuck do you get your message out on Twitter when Twitter specifically is being used to suppress your message?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Do what? Reach more people than we would if we stick purely to our little safe spaces?

Yes. It's trivially provable:

10M views:

https://x.com/tayrilivia/status/1854207409717428564

16M views:

https://x.com/RoseSensu/status/1854215333243949203

94M views:

https://x.com/BarackObama/status/1854284022731669530

Etc. Etc.

Those 2 posts have probably gotten more views than everything you and I have ever posted online combined.

Again, it's not about being louder than Elon Musk and whatever bullshit shenanigans, it's just about not 100% conceding the information spaces like because they aren't fair. Nothing is going to be fair for the next 4 years, but that doesn't mean we give up.