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It's wild to me that Democrats thought Hillary Clinton 2.0 was a good idea. They even fucked up the primaries like in 2016 as well.
There was no time for a primary.
joe biden has been in office for almost four years. his approval rating has been low for a while. there was time
.... He didn't step down until 3 months before the election, so no there wasn't time for a primary after he stepped down.
There was time for him to step down and I think he should have never tried for a second term, but that's not what the discussion is.
it looks like we’re mostly on the same page here. maybe the only difference is that i think that joe biden’s refusal to step down was a core part of fucking up the primary. so, for that reason, i think it is an important part of the discussion. there would have been plenty of time if he had stepped down earlier.
but i’m more-so just trying to clarify my earlier comment. i completely agree with you that there wasn’t time for a primary after he stepped down.
You're not clarifying. When I say "There was no time for a primary." that is obviously after he stepped down. That you take that to be anything but that, well.
that’s not immediately obvious to me, since it’s assuming that it was an inevitability that he’d refuse to step down. and there are many reasons why he should have stepped down much earlier.
but i can also understand your side of things, and i can see how it would be obvious from your perspective. im just trying to share my perspective and clear up a misunderstanding. at the end of the day, it seems like we’re both in agreement about the big picture.
Really? The timeline we live in is that he didn't step down until 3 months prior to the election, and that 3 months was the timeline for a primary. I don't see this going anywhere so I'm out.
Were you ever in?
I voted in the primaries so IDK what you're talking about.
Like how granular do we want to get? There was no time for primaries with finding multiple candidates who have time to prepare a platform based on new pollng information (also takes time) on what policies were popular and battling it out for a month which would have cut into campaigning time.
Three was no time because they waited too fucking long
If you mean for Biden to step down, there's no arguing with that.
The Primaries where I live where held in June. My options for President in June where Joe Biden and Terrisa Bukovinac. What you mean is there was no time to hold a second primary. If the Democrats needed to hold a second primary, doesn't that mean they fucked up the first one?
Thank you for getting granular all on your own.
You're welcome 🤗