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“This is a collapse of the Democratic Party.” Consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader comments on the reelection of Donald Trump and the failures of the Democratic challenge against him.

Despite attempts by left-wing segments of the Democratic base to shift the party’s messaging toward populist, anti-corporate and progressive policies, says Nader, Democrats “didn’t listen.” Under Trump, continues Nader, “We’re in for huge turmoil.”

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe blowing up the Democratic party would be best for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

that would only be true if there was something to replace it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well I'd prefer more than one thing to replace it, but certainly this is one of the rare opportunities to do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a mathematical impossibility. Election theory says you can't do that with first past the post.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Election Theory also says you can never ever change the first pass the post system while working within a two-party system. Thus the only way change it is by breaking the two-party system. Which I agree you can't do when there are two parties. However while I would never say to do it on purpose, the Democrats have already destroyed themselves on their own. So why not take advantage of it? Without the Democratic party there as a foil the Republican party will break apart as well. So this is a golden opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't see much downside at this point. They can shamble along like a zombie inside a Republican dominated system at every level. That's their best case scenario.