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Boy, 15, who fatally stabbed teenager he did not know in Birmingham is jailed for life (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A 15-year-old boy was sentenced to life in prison for fatally stabbing a stranger, Muhammad Hassam Ali, after a brief conversation in Birmingham city center. The second boy, who stood by, was sentenced to five years in secure accommodation. Ali’s family expressed their grief, describing him as a budding engineer whose life was tragically cut short.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's virtually no crime that can be physically redeemed, except for property crimes. Literally any other criminal offense creates an irredeemable injury. But that is exactly why nearly developed country, except for the USA have a redemption-type penal system. How do you measure redemption? Is r*pe redeemed after 4 or 50 years? It will never be for the victim.

But what you can do is try to help everyone to not become criminal again. Because for one, guess what, they're human too. They weren't born criminal and aren't criminal by nature once they've committed a crime. They have the right to live their life as much as the guy they killed. Once you have them forfeit their right to a free life, you commit a similar crime. One that in this case is done by objectifying them as an object rather than a subject.

This thinking is the result of hundreds of years of philosophical thinking and seeing the result of your mindset being used by tyrannys.

If they do not pose a danger to anyone anymore and have reformed then they are to be let go. Also in dubio pro reo.

As for minors, their mind is still developing, they may have cognitively known that killing someone is wrong, but they have not yet accepted it as their own moral. Not knowing even the basics of cognitive development of children, I feel like there's not even a point to discuss with you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

As for minors, their mind is still developing, [...] Not knowing even the basics of cognitive development of children, I feel like there’s not even a point to discuss with you

Are you sure you replied to the right guy because that's an argument I made from the start.