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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a troll, it's not possible otherwise

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, can confirm there are far too many people this ignorant. I work with a good number of them. I'm in North Georgia, and some of these people literally can't find themselves on a map of the United States and believe the English folks stole English from the Americans...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's just crazy to me. Remembers me one time I was in Canada, and we were visiting a museum with First Nation People depicted.

A woman I was with asked me "So, do you also have First Nations in Europe?"

Well...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We have the Sami in Sweden/Norway/Finland/Russia.

They where treated like shit here as well... not genocide bad, but forcefull eradication of culture/language/religion during the 20th century bad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They where treated like shit here as well… not genocide bad, but forcefull eradication of culture/language/religion during the 20th century bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, Sweden drank the "race biology" kool aid.

Did a lot of nasty shit to mentally disabled people too, like giving them super sticky candy to study the effects of sugar on tooth decay.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipeholm_experiments

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Which gave us the term Lördagsgodis (Saturday candy).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, thank you for this!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

No problem!

If you're interested you can read up on them here

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the Basque are sorta culturally first nations. The language they speak is not related to any other language spoken in Europe. It’s the only surviving language that descended from pre-indo-European languages of prehistoric Europe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, current Basque people are descendants of the original Basque people it's not like someone arrived from another continent and slaughtered them.

About the language, there are a few other non Indo-European languages: Finnic languages (including Finnish, Estonian) and Ugric languages (Hungarian)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Europe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. I am a sami, what you would call "first nation". There are many, many other kinds of indigenous peoples here in the Nordics

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm very passionate about the Sami and very interested in their culture. There's no doubt they are a historically oppressed people and indigenous to Sapmi.

But let's be rigorous here. They weren't in Europe before everyone else like the First Nations in Canada. The Sami arrived in Europe, from the Urals in the 2nd millenium BC. By this time the Indo-Europeans and their languages were already spreading through Europe. The Neolithic farmers who mixed with the Indo-Europeans were there since the 7th millenium BC. The hunter gatherers they mixed with...were there since before the last ice age.

You could make the case that the Basques are our first nations. That would be true of their language and culture. But the fact is, genetically, they are pretty much the same as their neighbors due to millenia of intermixing and contact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's why we don't call ourselves "first nation". We're indigenous people

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There've been people in Sapmi for at least 10 millennia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ok I looked a bit further, the evidence for the first inhabitants of the region being ancestors of the Sami is based on linguistic studies with other Uralic languages. But it's far from direct evidence. I always assumed it was based on archeological evidence.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I live in Seattle but I hail from the atl metro, I can confirm this is not uncommon, my mother asked me where Canada “ended” yesterday… she thought it was just above nyc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My sister-in-law said she couldn't have mayonnaise because she was intolerant to dairy.

People are just dumb these days.