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Summary

Donald Trump’s allies are worried that Elon Musk’s supposed canvassing efforts could cost them the election.

Elon Musk’s America PAC is under fire for allegedly faking canvassing data and mistreating workers on Donald Trump’s campaign. Roughly a quarter of reported door-knocks in Arizona and Nevada were flagged as “unusual,” suggesting location spoofing. Canvassers also report poor conditions, including working through a hurricane and being transported in a U-Haul instead of promised rentals. Frustrated Republican operatives are urging Trump to abandon Musk’s PAC due to its operational failures.

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[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Elon Musk forgot the formula for success he used in all his other businesses:

  • Buy a bussiness made by smart people

  • Pour money into it

  • Don't fuck it up too much

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the Trump formula:

  • Get someone gullible supporting you

  • Use him up

  • Blame him for everything and throw him under the bus

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago

I can't wait for this to happen to Elmo Muskrat.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hes been high on his own supply for too long. He thinks everything he touches will succeed just because.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Well put. I never anticipated this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

When is he going to do points #2 and #3 for Twitter

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Point 2 was him buying the company. Now we're on step 2.5: cost savings to make it profitable. Unfortunately, Shitter will never be profitable now that they've fucked up #3 and destroyed the brand and are working on turning shitter into a Nazi bar.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Eh. I’m honestly pretty convinced at this point that the ultimate intent was never really to make money with Twitter.

Sure, he would have liked to recoup his costs. But at the end of the day, eel on musk paid 40something billion dollars to buy one of the most prolific social media companies in the history of social media. It’s just a big megaphone with speakers in everyone’s smartphones. It’s a propaganda device. He is openly using it to try to swing public opinion towards Trump (amongst various other things), and has been since about 6 months after he bought it and “cleaned house”. He’s using it to try to directly affect the result of the election. That’s it. That’s his plan. And he thinks he’ll become cemented into Trump’s inner circle if he pulls it off.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He spent 40B mostly of other people’s money. His liability is like 12B. The more interesting question is why various stodgy bankers gave him the other 28B.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The more interesting question is why various stodgy bankers gave him the other 28B.

Because that's how the system works.

If you have $5,000 and owe 15,000, you're in debt and most likely have to work a shitload of hours in a dead end job for the rest of your life in a futile attempt to make ends meet.

If you have 3 billion dollars and owe 30 billion, you're a billionaire and get to do whatever you want consequence free, including breaking all of the laws.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Point 1 was him buying the company though. He has not poured any money into it, as you say he has done quite the reverse

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Note that when people say "pour money into a company" they mean "invest wisely in the parts of the company that work" not "buy a thing with a big price tag" those are two completely separate things

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You and I understand that, but I bet PG doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Leon Skum:

  • ~~Buy a bussiness made by smart people~~ I smart, I make business

  • Pour money into it - yes

  • Don't fuck it up too much - YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

It's that last one that's a real doozy for him

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Too bad he's bad at doing even that