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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

The point isn’t to subject them to gradation, it’s to note the damages they all do in their different ways.

Taylor isn’t exempt from being held responsible for her part just because she’s a nice person.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I mean what is she supposed to do, take a riverboat to her next tour? She's a direct result of a larger cultural fascination, not the problem itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago

You should, uh...reaaaaad.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

I'm with you, she can't possibly take any form of public transport. Not because she's somehow better than the rest of us, but for security if nothing else.

And honestly, I can't imagine how much she would disrupt a public airport or train station. No way I would want to be in that place at the same time, it would be chaos.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The cultural fascination with her doesn’t demand that she use private jets to fly almost 200,000 miles a year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't it though, imagine her trying to go through the airport. If people would leave her alone it would work out, but cultural fascination implies people will be fascinated. And therefore she, and every other person at the airport will end up delayed over and over and over.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I think the point being missed is that she takes unnecessary flights and uses too much fuel in doing so.

Look it up. She’s been scrutinized for it pretty publicly. And there are viable alternatives- she just seems to prefer not to use them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

There’s plenty she could do and tons of other acts throughout history that managed to do what she does with a smaller carbon footprint.

“She has no choice!” is not an argument to defend what she does.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Perfection is the enemy of good

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Asking someone to reduce their carbon footprint isn’t asking for perfection. It’s simply asking them to participate.

And a blatant refusal to do so is what earned her her spot on this list.

I’m sure she’s a nice person- but being nice doesn’t excuse one from the responsibility of their actions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I can see the straw man that you’re trying to build, so I’ll just stop it right there and say that regardless of what I eat- I’m not putting the equivalent of 200,000 miles worth of jet fuel exhaust into the atmosphere as a single human being per year.

Also, veganism isn’t as environmentally friendly as your assumption would suggest- therefore from my perception, your argument is irrelevant.

And it’s clear that no ground is moving on either side of this debate, so I’m going to end this here and say that we can simply just agree to disagree on the topic.

Have a good day.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah you want her to be perfect by your standards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I don’t think you get to tell me what I want. That’s my job. She’s an human being, therefore she’s flawed. This isn’t up for debate.

I would only ask that she participate in reducing her carbon footprint. And I don’t care who you are… 200,000 miles a year in a private jet is excessive.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I do get to tell you what you are, a perfectionist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

And I get to tell you you’re wrong. Funny how that works.