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Genocide’s a dealbreaker but I encourage swingstaters to vote Harris
Harris supports genocide too
““He’s doing a good job,” Trump said about the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that [Netanyahu] decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”
If there is not an option on the ballot to oppose genocide then our system is fascist already.
That's nice dear. Biden is currently commiting genocide and has troops in Israel commiting genocide. Harris has stated she is not changing from bidens policy.
And Trump has stated he will commit to turbo super genocide.
I get it, we dont have levels of genocide but maybe we should because Biden and Harris are probably around a 4/10 and Trump is aiming for 11/10
Get over yourself and take the choices you have and vote for the best one. Choosing not to vote is implicit support for the worst one.
If you believe you have to consent to genocide in order to live, you're a fascist.
So of the two candidates available which one is committing less genocide.
BTW I don't live in a sithole that is about to elect nazi zombie geriatric Hitler because they think a woman is too scary.
If you believe you need to commit genocide to live, you're a fascist that should not physically be allowed to continue to exist. Period.
There is nothing worse than commiting a genocide, because the genocide never stops at the intended target.
The US and Israel started with Palestinians and now are expanding to all arabs. They have escalated once. They will escalate again. There is no less genocide or more genocide. There is just genocide. Either you support it, in which case see the first sentence, or you're not voting for it.
I don't conflate voting for one of two options with consent or endorsement of all their actions.
This is why the whole system needs to change.
Can it be done before the next president's term starts? Unlikely, so maybe we need to hold our noses and vote against Netanyahu's preferred candidate.
It doesn't matter if you believe it. I'm entirely sure, in fact I know for a fact, there were Nazis that solely supported the economic rhetoric of the party.
They were exactly as responsible as every other Nazi.
As someone has already pointed out, the election that Hitler did well in causing his appointment to Chancellor was one with a high abstention rate - especially from Communists and Socialist who chose moral purity over voting against Nazis.
You do you. But your crusade on others trying to hold off a second genocide against migrants of colour and LGBTQI people in the US doesn't seem the best outcome to me.
Unless you know a third candidate that won't persecute people in the US and will also end support for Israel.