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Two hours before Donald Trump was set to take the stage at Madison Square Garden in New York City, right-wing comedian Tony Hinchcliffe warmed up the crowd with a shockingly racist performance. 

“Where are my proud Latinos at tonight?” Hinchcliffe asked the packed arena, eliciting scattered loud cheers. “You guys see what I mean? [The border’s] wide open. There’s so many of them.” 

“These Latinos, they love making babies, too,” he added. “There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They come inside just like they did to our country.” 

The crowd groaned and cheered as Hinchcliffe continued, saying, “Republicans are the party with a good sense of humor.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Part of it is just money. The trickle up economics of the last 10 yrs has squeezed the possibility out of the working class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That seems true only if you ignore examples from countries where wealth distribution and social mobility is much better or people who have actual wealth.

People in northern Europe don't have more babies even though they have the safety nets, social programs and wealth to have them. Rich people don't have more babies even though they have the means to have them.

People just don't want enough babies to renew the population if they're given the choice and other opportunities, it's that simple.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I said part. What you say is also true. It’s a multi faceted issue.

Other arguments would be climate change and political unrest/uncertainty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the thing though, there's nothing that shows that money is any part of the issue. Heck, poor people have more kids than anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Clearly it’s a multifaceted issue, but all other things being equal (same culture, same applicable social safety net, etc.), rich people do have more babies than poor countrymates: https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-babies-for-the-rich-the-relationship-between-status-and-children-is-changing

It’s a linear relationship for men, and u-shaped for women (middle-income women have fewer kids than poor women, but high-income women have more kids than middle-income women).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thanks for telling me the same thing twice and also, that's one study and I'll do the same thing you did and share family stats a second time

https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Rich people do have more babies than poor countrymates: https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-babies-for-the-rich-the-relationship-between-status-and-children-is-changing

It's a linear relationship for men, and u-shaped for women (middle-income women have fewer kids than poor women, but high-income women have more kids than middle-income women).

Clearly it's a multifaceted issue, but all other things being equal, more money does make people more likely to have kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

For men but if you look at women numbers (and that's the important number at they're the ones having the kids) it paints a different picture.

Also

https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/